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Vice Presidential Debate Discussion Thread

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posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:39 AM
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I had to listen to the debate since I had to be somewhere else at the time. I agree with Charles Krauthammer that Biden sounded better on the radio, and he looked bad on TV. True, you still could detect the moderator's bias, cutting off Ryan "I want to move on..." and letting Joe Biden run over Ryan and interrupt at will. When I came home I found some criticism and videos that showed me how often Biden smiled, times when I only heard virtual silence on his end when listening on the radio. His gaffe was the overuse of his toothy grin. Not everything is a joke Mr. Biden. You are supposed to be the vice president of the United States, come on, get a grip man. He also told some serious whoppers with the conviction of a very practiced bald-faced liar. I agree that Ryan looked poised and dead pan serious in comparison.
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posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by bigrex
I had to listen to the debate since I had to be somewhere else at the time. I agree with Charles Krauthammer that Biden sounded better on the radio, and he looked bad on TV. True, you still could detect the moderator's bias, cutting off Ryan "I want to move on..." and letting Joe Biden run over Ryan and interrupt at will. When I came home I found some criticism and videos that showed me how often Biden smiled, times when I only heard virtual silence on his end when listening on the radio. His gaffe was the overuse of his toothy grin. Not everything is a joke Mr. Biden. You are supposed to be the vice president of the United States, come on, get a grip man. He also told some serious whoppers with the conviction of a very practiced bald-faced liar. I agree that Ryan looked poised and dead pan serious in comparison.
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And Ryan hid the majority of his opinion and sentiment with verbiage, like a lawyer...

Biden was laughing due to the egregious nature of Ryan's distortions, Biden was not laughing without reason.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by HostileApostle

The moderator tried really hard to get specifics out of Ryan, he flat out refused.

Now you have to ask yourself, why is he (and Romney) continuing to refuse to give specifics about this? Maybe it's because they know the specifics are going to be extremely unpopular to the American Public?


She didn't try to get a single one out of biden...HMmm

Like i said how much can you explain in 2 mins...that is what I call a trap, and Biden is just sitting back waiting if he did go into it in detail.


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Biden wasn't lying his ass off... That is the difference -

Ryan knows if he actually presents his intent, he and Romney will be rejected by the middle of the electorate.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by alienreality
I've always thought of Biden as someone's perverted uncle.. He just looks like he's really guilty of something..

And just now seeing the ad on ATS for the "tales from the crypt" , seeing the crypt keeper made me think of Joe Biden, They could be twins!!


Several people I know who have fb accounts had posted hilarious pics comparing Joe to the Joker(Jack Nicholson version) and a few other creepy comparisons.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by HostileApostle

The moderator tried really hard to get specifics out of Ryan, he flat out refused.


To add, that was an unfair and loaded set of questions to Ryan.


Ryan and Romney say there are going to do things, but the refuse to provide details.

Ryan did it several times in the debate and the moderator attempted to get his to clarify.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:53 AM
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That Biden can just lie like that, shows the kind of truly corrupt person he really is.. His lack of any real intelligence betrays him quickly because of how poorly thought out his lies are of course..

Obama is just as dangerous and deadly as biden is with the way he lies too, although he is a much craftier liar. People like this running America should disturb every single american, regardless of political loyalties..



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by Razimus

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Feeling like this is the Ryan show. How is he getting so much time. 2 to 1 almost so far.


Biden ended up getting around 2 minutes more than Ryan, Biden interrupted Ryan 82 times where Ryan only interrupted Biden 7 times, the disrespectful smirks and laughs and smiles while Ryan was discussing serious matters is what lost him the debate.


Ryan is a liar and showed Biden and America zero respect.

You have to earn respect, it is not free.



Both Biden & Ryan believe that life begins with conception, but only Ryan sticks up for his faith.


And Biden stuck up for my faith and Biden stuck up for freedom, not big government



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by alienreality
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That Biden can just lie like that, shows the kind of truly corrupt person he really is.. His lack of any real intelligence betrays him quickly because of how poorly thought out his lies are of course..

Obama is just as dangerous and deadly as biden is with the way he lies too, although he is a much craftier liar. People like this running America should disturb every single american, regardless of political loyalties..



Romney and Ryan betray Christ's teaching -

They represent greed and exact things Jesus preached against -



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by HostileApostle

The moderator tried really hard to get specifics out of Ryan, he flat out refused.

Now you have to ask yourself, why is he (and Romney) continuing to refuse to give specifics about this? Maybe it's because they know the specifics are going to be extremely unpopular to the American Public?


She didn't try to get a single one out of biden...HMmm

Like i said how much can you explain in 2 mins...that is what I call a trap, and Biden is just sitting back waiting if he did go into it in detail.


edit on 12-10-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)


Biden wasn't lying his ass off... That is the difference -

Ryan knows if he actually presents his intent, he and Romney will be rejected by the middle of the electorate.





So with all the clamoring for details from Romney/Ryan...somebody please explain to me at what juncture during either debate did Obama or Biden go into great detail to discuss their plan moving forward from their (not even arguably) worst term as President and Vice President achieved by anyone...ever? I'm sorry, but when I've listened to both debates (as a Democrat), I find myself becoming increasingly agitated with the amount of confusion Obama/Biden pretend (I hope) to have regarding the ideas, stances on issues, and potential solutions Romney/Ryan HAVE set forth. All I hear from Obama/Biden...is the same thing they were telling people 4 years ago, before the # storm that is their Presidency crushed our economy and weakened our foreign policy. I'm sorry...I'm not a "war monger", and I certainly don't like paying taxes. I'd welcome a tax cut. I'd welcome affordable health care. I'd welcome a lot of things. Being led by a couple of guys who have shown time and time again that they have no idea what they are doing, and they are out of touch with reality, while lying (I realize they all lie) about how they intend on fixing things...is not something I welcome. Obama said himself, if things didn't turn around, he'd be a one term president...someone explain to me when things "turned around", because with all of these Obama supporters, I surely had to have missed something...



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by campanionator


Biden wasn't lying his ass off... That is the difference -







Im sorry campanionator.


NOTHING you can say about Biden, makes him look good.




And Honestly, nothing this President, or Vice President, has done, can make Romney, or Ryan look as bad, as what we have had the last 4 years.


This is Romneys plan, right or wrong. His VP, stands by it.




posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by mademyself1984

Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by HostileApostle

The moderator tried really hard to get specifics out of Ryan, he flat out refused.

Now you have to ask yourself, why is he (and Romney) continuing to refuse to give specifics about this? Maybe it's because they know the specifics are going to be extremely unpopular to the American Public?


She didn't try to get a single one out of biden...HMmm

Like i said how much can you explain in 2 mins...that is what I call a trap, and Biden is just sitting back waiting if he did go into it in detail.


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Biden wasn't lying his ass off... That is the difference -

Ryan knows if he actually presents his intent, he and Romney will be rejected by the middle of the electorate.





So with all the clamoring for details from Romney/Ryan...somebody please explain to me at what juncture during either debate did Obama or Biden go into great detail to discuss their plan moving forward from their (not even arguably) worst term as President and Vice President achieved by anyone...ever?


Sorry, Bush had the worst presidency ever Alberta Einstain







I'm sorry, but when I've listened to both debates (as a Democrat), I find myself becoming increasingly agitated with the amount of confusion Obama/Biden pretend (I hope) to have regarding the ideas, stances on issues, and potential solutions Romney/Ryan HAVE set forth. All I hear from Obama/Biden...is the same thing they were telling people 4 years ago, before the # storm that is their Presidency crushed our economy and weakened our foreign policy. I'm sorry...I'm not a "war monger", and I certainly don't like paying taxes. I'd welcome a tax cut. I'd welcome affordable health care. I'd welcome a lot of things. Being led by a couple of guys who have shown time and time again that they have no idea what they are doing, and they are out of touch with reality, while lying (I realize they all lie) about how they intend on fixing things...is not something I welcome. Obama said himself, if things didn't turn around, he'd be a one term president...someone explain to me when things "turned around", because with all of these Obama supporters, I surely had to have missed something...


You are not a Democrat, just read the contradictions in your post...

If you don't want to be a loser, stop imitating a loser's behavior.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:09 AM
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The facts are available to you. Obama has been worse than Bush...and it is barely debatable And please...explain to me how one could make the determination that I am not a Democrat based off of anything I have said? So my preferential political party produced a horrendous President and I'm not stupid enough to try and convince myself otherwise...that makes me not a registered Democrat? Got it...just a moment...getting my wallet out...Registered Voter's Identification...there it is...yep...Democrat... In every election I've voted in, for any level of government, for any single candidate in any single position, I've voted Democrat...with the exception of one. Take a wild guess which one that was. Loser's behavior? This coming from an Obama supporter....
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posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by daryllyn
I think Biden is acting like a child.

Snickering, smirking, interrupting.

This is serious business and he should act accordingly.

It's embarrassing.


And Ryan is acting like a corrupt lawyer.

Maybe he will send your son to Iran?

You can always hope



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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I suppose so if one can overlook his ugly gaffes like you know the "they are gonna put y'all back in chains" comment. I especially loved the winning moment where Ryan gently told him how words just come out of his mouth wrong, and Biden calmly assured him that he says what he means...... I don't think Biden even realized what he just implied about himself.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:12 AM
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The ultimate drinking game for tonight's debate would have been a shot every time someone interrupted someone else. Good gosh Joe, say it aint so....
82 shots!


Add in 7 more for Ryan and perhaps a few more for Martha the moderator and blood poisoning for sure!



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:14 AM
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posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:14 AM
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So sonnny1 you would prefer Romney and Ryan who would not only send American forces into Iran but also Sryia and even Stay longer in Afghanistan? which will bring more deaths, more hatred from the people in Afghanistan?



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:14 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by thetiler
 


I suppose so if one can overlook his ugly gaffes like you know the "they are gonna put y'all back in chains" comment. I especially loved the winning moment where Ryan gently told him how words just come out of his mouth wrong, and Biden calmly assured him that he says what he means...... I don't think Biden even realized what he just implied about himself.




Ironic, Hey?

"Look, John's last-minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number-one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs." --Joe Biden, Athens, Ohio, Oct. 15, 2008


"Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me." --Joe Biden, speaking at a town hall meeting in Nashua, New Hampshire, Sept. 10, 2008

"You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking." --Joe Biden, in a private remark to an Indian-American man caught on C-SPAN, June, 2006

"Folks, I can tell you I've known eight presidents, three of them intimately." --Joe Biden, Aug. 22, 2012


I wish the debates, touched on Joe Bidens Gaffes..........




posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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Don't care for Biden or Ryan. They both acted like immature goofballs at a high school debate.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by thetiler
 


I suppose so if one can overlook his ugly gaffes like you know the "they are gonna put y'all back in chains" comment. I especially loved the winning moment where Ryan gently told him how words just come out of his mouth wrong, and Biden calmly assured him that he says what he means...... I don't think Biden even realized what he just implied about himself.



How about Paul Ryan complaining about the stimulus and then we find out the greasy SOB
requested stimulus money?



Or how about the fact that he collected socialist derived money for all those years.

You guys are running a massive hypocrite




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