Vice Presidential Debate Discussion Thread, page 24


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reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 10:27 PM by loam
reply to post by Insurrection


Originally posted by Insurrection
I'm still trying to figure out why an old man was barking and a young man was blowing a dog whistle on national TV. -Mags




Classic!
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reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 10:29 PM by sheepslayer247
reply to post by Alxandro


Really? So Biden was making a sexist gesture towards the moderator?

Here...take a few straws. It will be much easier to grab for em!


reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 10:30 PM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by loam
reply to post by beezzer


The net effect will be all eyes on the actual presidential candidates next week.

Everyone will have fogotten about the two we saw tonight.


Next week's debate will be on foreign policy.

Romney could do a crossword puzzle and not say a word and still win against Obama.
(sorry, partisan-me )


I oblige. Romney sounds like an utter moron when talking about foreign affairs. We need to be strong? Sure. Like, how? We are already fighting two wars and raining Hellfire missiles on Taliban worldwide. What else do you want? Romney stresses that North Korea is a problem and "we need to be strong". Like, how? Nuke North Korea? Romney and Ryan are playing for people who are only able to understand concepts like "strong" and "weak" and don't care to put further effort into analysis of the situation.


reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 10:35 PM by queenannie38
reply to post by JacKatMtn

Didn't medicare, and social security used to be protected "hands off" funds?

If so.. who put their hands on it?

Congress?

If so.. who created the doom scenario for both?

I am most likely wrong but that's the thought that came to mind.. can anyone set me straight on that?


Well, they are held in trust funds and are not altered as far as their principle, which is still only used for their respective programs and which isn't 'discretionary' budge since it isn't subject to an kind of budgeting other than what is determined by the amount who are eligible to receive benefits.

HOWEVER, as trust funds, they are investments and while the interest is off-limits, the interest is not. That interest is part of what we borrow each year to pay for the appropriations bills for the war(s) going on...it isn't all from China...some of it is borrowing on the trust fund interest. Which...if we didn't have to fund wars...could go back in as principle, or at least a portion of it...and that would solve any future shortages without any trouble at all.

Congress has dipped into the interest to pay for war(s) but no one has taken from the principle. And the amount spent into those trust funds comes from FICA not income tax so only those who actually get paychecks and work for someone pay this...as well as their employers, too, in a slightly larger than matching amount. So the 'working poor' fund the 'entitlement' programs the same as the those who work who aren't poor..if there are such souls...but someone like Romney who doesn't ever get a payroll type income does not pay into those programs.


reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 10:35 PM by HostileApostle
reply to post by BlueAjah


It's my honest opinion.

I'm not asking you to like it.

Nothing has changed in the past week about Romney or Obama. Nothing has changed about what they support or what their plans are.

So I'm sorry it took you so long to figure out what their positions are and what you support, but for most people they already know what they support.

It's not a partisan thing, it's a common sense thing.

I will continue to believe that "undecides" past the primaries are idiots, and it sucks that our country is at the mercy of these people that can't figure out what people stand for and what positions they support.

And you said it, politicians have to "woo" undecideds, not because they are smart people, but because they are easily swayed because they really are clueless about politics. That is why stupid things like "Obama is a muslim" influences these people.

Sorry, I will never buy that "undecideds" are deeply discerning people. I see them as easily swayed and easily manipulated, uninformed people who are have turned elections into American Idol.



reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 10:40 PM by Happy1
reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Love the reference to the fall of Saigon.

I find it interesting that the "conservatives" are spending their time attempting to teach the "Obama lovers" economics 101, and the strategy of war.

Undecided women are the ones that go to the grocery store, pay the car insurance, and try to buy clothes for their kids for the school year. That's why they're listening to Ryan.

Ryan kicked Biden's ass for any of those that have an IQ over 93.


reply posted on 11-10-2012 @ 10:42 PM by Surfrat
reply to post by SamLuv


Budget? What is that? When was the last time we have had a budget?
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