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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by loam
reply to post by HostileApostle
 



Originally posted by loam
CNN about to announce poll results on the debate....This will be interesting.


CNN says Ryan 48%, Biden 44%
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edit on 11-10-2012 by loam because: (no reason given)


You forgot the margin of error, 5 points.

CNN is calling it a draw.

They can call it what they want, I can already tell that the Dem base is now fired up again. And that is very important going into the next debate.

The Right is still complaining about the Moderator and about Biden's attitude, notice they aren't praising Ryan on his performance, just trying to bash Biden on his.




posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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I don't think that your claims are accurate or fair.

Disclaimer - I was undecided as of a few weeks ago, but have now decided.

To non-partisan people, the decision is not as clear as choosing a party based on established platforms. The decision might be easy for those who have all of their opinions fitting perfectly into one side or the other. But for those who are analyzing many different issues, and the platforms and history of various candidates, it is more of weighted calculation based on many factors that are not totally clear. One may like the foreign policies of one but the economic policies of another, etc. etc. And then throw in deciding who do you trust to do the job, which is also based on weeding through propaganda and facts to determine which are accurate.

So, being undecided is not necessarily ignorance, but more being very conscientious about being sure that you are making the right decision.

Undecided are more likely to be non-partisan. That is why they are the ones the politicians work to woo. To call them morons is insulting and elitist.
edit on 10/11/12 by BlueAjah because: changed ignorant to morons, as that is what he called them



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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The net effect will be all eyes on the actual presidential candidates next week.

Everyone will have fogotten about the two we saw tonight.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
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The moderator had her dog in the fight
and that was biden... It truly did show.


Of course it did…..

Biden was a pitbull (and a liar)….don’t get me wrong…but the moderator cut off Ryan and allowed so much BS from Biden that it was obvious.

Oh well. You win some and lose some. The people who watched this debate know what happened here…it was a Chicago style hit-job.






They were trying to whack ryan off chicago style...

Ryan wins because of the way Biden acted..

The American people don't take kindly to ass holes
who laugh and giggle at themselves... It was a botched
whack off job... I don't think they accomplished the goal
of knocking Ryan out...



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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It was

50% Biden one
32% Ryan won
18% thought it was a tie



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by HostileApostle
CNN Focus Group, MSNBC Focus Group, and even FOX NEWS Focus Group, all say Biden won.

CBS Poll has Biden at 50% winning debate.


I just turned on Fox News, have been watching CNN, I now know where all the right wingers are getting their remarks about Biden's attitude. Sean Hannity.



That is what I thought as well. Because it sure wasn't like that with Obama and Romney. I just feel that Obama is not going to be Mr.Nice Guy the next debate. Obama knows that the public wants him to come in to the next debate with his shirt sleeves rolled up and go to work. That is really saying something when you mention "Fox" :^)
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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Interesting factoid -
Biden Interrupts Ryan 82 Times in 90 Minutes
The fact checkers have gotten started on the TV. Comparing lies ....
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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Paul Ryan?.....owned!


The proper spelling is pwned.

Like, in biotch.


Funny, because that's what my 13 year old son said as he watched the debate with me on live feed. He said Ryan got pwned like a biotch!

He doesn't know much about politics and I let him decide what is true/false on his own, but if he can see what just happened, why can't everyone else?
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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by mac420
I watched Judge Jim Gray's Live Commentary. He won hands down. Its sad that they fight tooth and nail to keep Gary Johnson and Jim Gray out of the debates. Shows how undemocratic our democratic process truly is...


I think there is a 3rd party debate that is going to be held in Chicago later this month, 4 participants..

Goode, Johnson, Stein and Anderson..

I doubt it get's MSM coverage, hopefully it will air on one of the smaller channels.. it is a start, and important to hear their message..

There's a good reason why the Dems and Reps took control of the Presidential election debates..

They don't want anyone else to be heard...



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by Ben81
So many Right and Left on ATS
this thread show the true colors of many members

i have a message for the people voting for Romney and Ryan ..

ARE YOU GUYS LIVING ON MARS OR WHAT ????

We are on Earth here .. wake the hell up


This is no thread for tolls..

Move along, youngster.


Seabag ! my friend .. you didnt change a bit
since the last time i spoke to you


If you want a mature VP that think Americans first second and third in his priority list
Vote for Biden !

If you want another war .. vote for this youngster below




posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by loam
reply to post by beezzer
 


The net effect will be all eyes on the actual presidential candidates next week.

Everyone will have fogotten about the two we saw tonight.


Next week's debate will be on foreign policy.

Romney could do a crossword puzzle and not say a word and still win against Obama.
(sorry, partisan-me
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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by HostileApostle
CBS Poll has Biden at 50% winning debate.

That's not a 'win'. That's a tie.


That's one poll of many.

And I tell you what: last week, it took me 5 seconds of looking at Obama to see that he was losing. We'll never know why, but he was. This time, it took me 5 seconds of looking at Ryan to see that the guy is full of it and can't quite keep himself together in the debate.

Biden made Ryan his b!tch.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by HostileApostle
CBS Poll has Biden at 50% winning debate.

That's not a 'win'. That's a tie.


Not when it is Biden 50%, Ryan 31% and Tie 19%.

Keep on spinning.

Are you still saying you aren't a Romney supporter?



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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Hey.. I am right there with you and in my previous posts thought Biden won the debate. I wish I could say otherwise, but I can't. And I'm a pretty conservative guy.

As for the smirks... it seems the press is making issue of it and I likewise commented on them. Actually, this is "Joe being Joe" and I accept that.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by lynn112
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To be honest, he is easier on the eyes.


Whose eyes? The guy has horrible ears, a totally fake smile, and a generally all around goofy look on his face almost all the time.

This guy is far from being good looking.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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It's a shame more people can't be respectful of views like yours.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out why an old man was barking and a young man was blowing a dog whistle on national TV. -Mags



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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The democratic base is not the issue undecided and independents are who Obama needs to win
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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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If you want this guy to be your president (should something unfortunate happen to Romney), buy a gun and one bullet. Save yourself some pain.

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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 10:27 PM
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I have been watching CNN all night and the comments about Biden were the very first ones made by the commentators on CNN. They thought Biden was smirking and his interruptions were rude. Not Fox, but CNN.





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