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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by tothetenthpower
You somehow mix organisations and states. State is by definition an independent entity.
Hizbollah is not a state and it is not funded from budget of a state it is in. It is funded mainly by Iran.
To clarify - if Israel would fund anti-Iranian organisation and it would just launch Israeli UAV into Iran, i am pretty sure that your stance on the issue of responsibility would differ.
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I just find it spurious that we immeidately jump on the "blame Iran" band wagon for something that is entirely unrelated.
It's just conjecture that Iran was involved in this drone operation. No actual evidence. I just it funny that those who support Israel will so quicky jump to an anti-iran stance when Iran isn't even mentioned...
Originally posted by Mamatus
I am willing to wait for Iran to produce (and use) a nuke. IMHO the world will be a better place when both of those countries are flat and glowing in the dark. I should invest in technologies that make oil drilling in a sea of glass easier......
"A sophisticated reconnaissance aircraft was sent from Lebanese territory ... and travelled hundreds of kilometres (miles) over the sea before crossing enemy lines and into occupied Palestine," Hassan Nasrallah said on television.
Source
He said the drone was "Iranian built and assembled in Lebanon."
Nasrallah's announcement came shortly after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused Hezbollah of launching the previously unidentified drone.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by maes2
anyhow history shows that Israel leaders are very good at influencing emperors. from Achaemenid and Romans
AND
Rome scattered Israel to the wind. But, we shouldn't go there with such blanket statements because that may legitimize the present inhabitants claim on the territory...
eh?
According to the Hebrew Bible, the golden calf (עֵגֶּל הַזָהָב ‘ēggel hazâhâḇ) was an idol (a cult image) made by Aaron to satisfy the Israelites during Moses' absence, when he went up to Mount Sinai. The calf was intended to be a physical representation of the God of Israel, and therefore was doubly wrong for involving Israel in idolatry and for ascribing physicality to God. en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by Soshh
reply to post by filosophia
This drone stunt may be partly intended to detract from the discussion of its role in assisting the Syrian government, something which has been highlighted recently by the death of a number of its more senior members inside Syria.
Hezbollah may appreciate its regional sponsors but being seen as their bitch isn't necessarily good for its popularity at home. It would seek to deflect criticism that Hezbollah is too heavily influenced by foreigners and reinforce its image as a Lebanese anti-Israeli 'resistance' group as opposed to simply a foreign proxy in Lebanon.
Originally posted by AgentX09
I doubt that was Hezbollah technology.The drone was Iranian taunt to Israel.They want Israel to start the war so afterwards when whining for support they can try and play poor victim.
Originally posted by maes2
Hezbollah confirms sending drone into Israeli airspace
(visit the link for the full news article)
The operation code-named Hussein Ayub saw Hezbollah’s drone fly hundreds of kilometers into the Israeli airspace and getting very close to Dimona nuclear plant without being detected by advanced Israeli and US radars, Nasrallah said during a televised speech late on Thursday.
"This is only part of our capabilities," he stressed, adding that Israelis have admitted to their security failure despite being provided with the latest technologies by Western powers.
so Israel is not that safe that they think !?
may be this can prevent Israel from another invasion on Lebanon or ...
I think they should equip their drones with nuclear detection sensors (as those on downed USA drone in Iran) maybe finally world knows what Israel is doing in Dimona well !
www.presstv.ir
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“Hezbullah has an independent identity as a Lebanese defender. because of Ideologic relations, Hezbullah was supported by Iran even before the revolution in Iran ! it's aim was to free the southern Lebanon from Israel occupation which took place in 2000.”
So you're saying the drone was SUPPOSED to intimidate Israel?Yes I'm sure their quaking in their boots over a toy airplane!
Originally posted by maes2
Originally posted by AgentX09
I doubt that was Hezbollah technology.The drone was Iranian taunt to Israel.They want Israel to start the war so afterwards when whining for support they can try and play poor victim.
I am sure that they are sure that Israel will not start a war. such acts are for preventing Israel from another war not persuading it to start a war. such acts are based on this logic that Israel will not involve in an expensive war. they want to show it that it's magical dome and air defence systems can not keep Israel intact in a war. so if they have any wisdom, they should not start a war !
Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by maes2
Seriously, What are you smoking ?
Israel left southern Lebanon in 2000.
In June 2000 theUN Lebanon and Israel signed an agreement on the border line, meaning the withdrawal was complete.
During the years after June 2000, Hezbollah repeatedly Attacked, kidnapped, infiltrated and launched rockets against Israel.
So who exactly are they defending ?
Ask any Lebanese Druze, Christians and other factions and they will tell you that Lebanon – once considered a jewel of the ME – was hijacked by Hezbollah = Iran.
And so we are clear on things, Hezbollah is not only a terrorist organization but also a major player in drug trafficking and money laundering.
Iran and their lapdog have only brought more misery to this already bitten country and to the region.
Originally posted by AgentX09
So you're saying the drone was SUPPOSED to intimidate Israel?Yes I'm sure their quaking in their boots over a toy airplane!
Originally posted by maes2
Originally posted by AgentX09
I doubt that was Hezbollah technology.The drone was Iranian taunt to Israel.They want Israel to start the war so afterwards when whining for support they can try and play poor victim.
I am sure that they are sure that Israel will not start a war. such acts are for preventing Israel from another war not persuading it to start a war. such acts are based on this logic that Israel will not involve in an expensive war. they want to show it that it's magical dome and air defence systems can not keep Israel intact in a war. so if they have any wisdom, they should not start a war !