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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by obnoxiouschick
God is nothing but he twists around and as he does so this happens 0 into 8. If God were not ashamed he would not be 'self' conscious.
The 8 is not permanent it fluctuates between the 0 and the 8, when you sleep the 'self' disappears.edit on 12-10-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
So if they hadn't eaten the fruit they could be immortal and have no reason to reproduce other than possibly loneliness, and they would still be alive today and toiling about the garden of Eden.
Logically thinking, anyway.
Originally posted by abeverage
Ok I get your line of reasoning. However I do not wish to simply be a created automaton, in that what exactly were we before "The Fall"?
The Ego may keep me from being controlled or manipulated to remove it might be like a mental slavery.
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by Fichorka
Kill internal dialogue and ego goes. The bible is correct we die becuase we have an ego. Death is a concpept a word, It faces us like a religion of impending doom. Without ego we sense like infinite beings. We have no concept of never being here.. It gets even better when you work out the snake is kundalini...
Satan is not necessarily viewed as a living being. Satan means duality, it is equivalent to "Maya" in indian religions, wich means "illusion", centered on the fact that we do not experience the environment itself but rather a projection of it, created by us.
Originally posted by Logarock
We dont really know but Satan may have fallen do to eating the fruit himself. Otherwise we must believe that the angles or gods as some have it, fell away from the Father due to becoming self aware some other way. It is said of satan that he sought to lift himself up above his station in the creation and become "God" but was slaped down to earth. At the time of the garden satan had to watch these humans be given control over the earth. Satan knew if he could get man to eat that we would be fouled up like he was and he would gain control over the earth and humans at large by mans new found knowlege of evil, while most of the dealing God and good angles had with men early on was an appeal to the knowlege of "good".......an appeal which apparently found little succsess outside of individuals and then only after they understood thier real condition.
Remove ego and all you see is that you are doomed and need someone to come save you. That you need reconccilation with the creator.Thinking that ego removal is enough is high ego indeed.
'Satan' means 'duality'. And yes, perhaps Satan is alive, could be that Satan was the first living being who expirienced reality other than God's (objective reality). And that's why duality/subjective reality (dualism) is called after Satan.
Originally posted by Logarock
Yea I have heard all that before but dont busy any of it. That is I hold satan is real, a real being ect.edit on 15-10-2012 by Logarock because: s
Here! ... The Wisdom is ... The-One having Reason ... let-him-calculate the Number of-the Beast ... for it-is a-Number of-a-Man ... and The Number of-it ... 666.