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GOP responsible for cutting State Dept. Security overseas - including the Benghazi, Libya, consulate

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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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I have no time to detail in great lengths the many laws that 0bama has broken. Just review the news from the last 4 years, and during the course of a week, there is at least one.
Impeachment trials I believe were looked at several times, but the only portion of the Fed Govt that is controlled by the opposition to his Highness is 1/3. That 1/3 knows that the Dems will just circle the wagons.
So.....................................................
It must be nice to just continue to blame Bush, instead of holding your idol responsible. It must be really really tough, as I am sure you really bought into the Hopey Changey BS.

You sound like a child. "Billy, you did this wrong", Billy retorts "Well, Sally did it too,............. 4 years ago".


edit on 11-10-2012 by macman because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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I watched the hearing on c-span last night and I could have sworn that Chairman Issa stated that the budget was passed by a bipartisan vote. In fact more Democrats voted for it than Republicans. I will try to find the transcript to support this.

Couldn't get the transcript but here are Issa's comments from an interview with Greta.

ISSA: Not at all. As a matter of fact, we didn't even get into the General Accountability report that showed tremendous amount of waste and a need for a comprehensive review, particularly as to security, and the budget that they were operating on on September 11 had a majority of Democrats, 149 Democrats, 147 Republicans, bipartisan by any standards, voted for that funding that they're living on today.


www.foxnews.com...

That should put an end to the nonsense that it was the GOP that was responsible.
edit on 10/11/2012 by Sparky63 because: added sources



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010


You really fail on history. 12 embassies were attacked under Bush only two have been attacked under Obama. And Romney is already talking about going to war so how is that Obama's fault?


Because we are talking about 0bama and the time of now.
Not 4 years ago.

Man, at what point do the 0bama fanboys allow their leader to take responsibility for anything.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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I think a previous poster said it best.

If it was the GOP's fault, Obama would have come out of the gate with that first.

But they blamed a video first.
Then they stalled.
Then they blamed republicans.

Ready. Shoot. Blame.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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Gop gets blamed, Libyan security gets cut, and other embassies get chevy volts.



Four days later, on May 7, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool’s new Chevrolet Volts. The purchase was a part of the State Department’s “Energy Efficiency Sweep of Europe” initiative, which included hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on green program expenditures at various U.S. Embassies. Read more: KELLY: Libya security cut while Vienna embassy gained Chevy Volts - Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com... Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter


www.washingtontimes.com...

Guns and personnel for security in Libya was obviously too much money to spend but hey they should asked for a volt to out run Al qaeda!!!!!

They would have gotten it.
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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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That personifies the 0bama and company's priorities.
Let's give them more money and more things to be in charge of shall we????

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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by PvtHudson
It's not the party in power or the president's fault, nope! It's the party OUT OF POWER's fault! Makes perfect sense! It's the fault of the favorite whipping boy of the MSM and Democrat party!

Not buying it. Nothing is Obama's fault when it comes to the left, the MSM and it's supporters. You people are like the modern equivalent to Stalin supporters. Those people were still blaming everyone else when working in the camps.


You're not buying it because you believe in magic!

The GOP did cut the funding and here is a link where you can hear it with your own ears.

www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
Um, so the GOP is at fault because the State Dept. refused to add security?

The GOP is at fault because of the Obama, Rice, State Dept. lies as well?



The GOP-controlled House is partially at fault because it cut the State Department security budget by about $500 million over two years -- including the period when this attack occurred. Did I say it was all their fault? No. But you right-wing zombies want to insist that it is all Obama's fault, which plainly it is not, and you cannot acknowledge that your precious *Tea Party Congress are culpable as well for reducing security funding. What don't you get? Congress makes the budget and the rest of the government -- including the executive branch -- has make due. Corners have to be cut; that's was budget cuts are about and the GOP is all about budget cuts.

As I have said elsewhere in this thread, I am not ruling out that perhaps extra measures could have been taken, but did anyone know that his consulate in particular was a target? How many consulates and embassies in the Middle East do you think the US has? A goodly number. Would you post more security at all of these? How about in other Muslim countries or countries with large Muslim immigrant populations, such as in Europe?

And what exactly is the smoking gun on how the State Department dropped the ball? Because the ambassador wrote in his personal journal that he worried about security? You don't think other US ambassadors and consuls in dangerous postings don't worry about the same?

And again, where was the outrage by the likes of you when it became known that Bush II was warned about potential Al Queda attacks in the US and that the CIA and FBI in his adinistration dropped the ball on known terrorist suspects in the US who then took part in the 9/11 attacks? You've got a massive double-standard mentality going, and that's part of the point of this thread. Yet none of you Obama haters will acknowledge this. Rather you and your fellow right-wing travelers spout drivel about how on earth does Bush have anything to do with this attack. Which is not the point. The point is Bush was responsible for CATASTROPHIC SECURITY LAPSE on US soil that resulted in the deaths of about 750 times as many US citizens as this Libyan attack, yet you folks criticized him not.
edit on 10/11/2012 by dbates because: *Edited to remove political trolling.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
Gop gets blamed, Libyan security gets cut, and other embassies get chevy volts.



Four days later, on May 7, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool’s new Chevrolet Volts. The purchase was a part of the State Department’s “Energy Efficiency Sweep of Europe” initiative, which included hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on green program expenditures at various U.S. Embassies. Read more: KELLY: Libya security cut while Vienna embassy gained Chevy Volts - Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com... Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter


www.washingtontimes.com...

Guns and personnel for security in Libya was obviously too much money to spend but hey they should asked for a volt to out run Al qaeda!!!!!

They would have gotten it.
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The GOP cut funding guns, security and personnel, period.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
I think a previous poster said it best.

If it was the GOP's fault, Obama would have come out of the gate with that first.

But they blamed a video first.
Then they stalled.
Then they blamed republicans.

Ready. Shoot. Blame.


Hey Einstein. Did you know that it can take over a year to figure out who commits a murder?

In REALITY it can take some time to figure things out.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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There is no proof that it was the budget cuts that prevented them from providing adequate security. In fact the hearing made it clear that the budget had little if nothing to do with the decision made.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by beezzer
I think a previous poster said it best.

If it was the GOP's fault, Obama would have come out of the gate with that first.

But they blamed a video first.
Then they stalled.
Then they blamed republicans.

Ready. Shoot. Blame.


Hey Einstein. Did you know that it can take over a year to figure out who commits a murder?

In REALITY it can take some time to figure things out.


*facepalm*

The terroists announced it ON FACEBOOK!





The leftists are in full blown panic mode!



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by Sparky63
reply to post by MrInquisitive
 


There is no proof that it was the budget cuts that prevented them from providing adequate security. In fact the hearing made it clear that the budget had little if nothing to do with the decision made.



Right here, sorry

www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by campanionator

The GOP cut funding guns, security and personnel, period.


More Democrats voted for the current budget than Republicans. You may want to play the game of party loyalty but you are not being intellectually honest. 149 Democrats voted for it and 147 Republicans voted for it. How does that make it the GOP's fault?



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Wanna try agian?


“In addition, multiple U.S. federal government officials have confirmed to the Committee that, prior to the September 11 attack, the U.S. mission in Libya made repeated requests for increased security in Benghazi,” Issa and Chaffetz added (my emphasis). “The mission in Libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in Washington.”


washingtonexaminer.com...

The current administration denied not the GOP, and not the House the admistration.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by beezzer
I think a previous poster said it best.

If it was the GOP's fault, Obama would have come out of the gate with that first.

But they blamed a video first.
Then they stalled.
Then they blamed republicans.

Ready. Shoot. Blame.


Hey Einstein. Did you know that it can take over a year to figure out who commits a murder?

In REALITY it can take some time to figure things out.


*facepalm*

The terroists announced it ON FACEBOOK!





The leftists are in full blown panic mode!


You guys are panicking, look at the hoard of you in this thread attempting to shill.


The terrorist could have announced it in skywriting, doesn't change the fact that the GOP cut funding
don't be mad



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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Just a few laws broken.

Seizing control of GM and Chrysler without proper authorization from Congress.
Firing whistle-blower Gerald Walpin for doing his job as the Inspector-General in charge of investigating corruption, waste, and fraud in government programs.
Collecting data on fellow Americans who oppose healthcare reform with flag@whitehouse.gov and now, through a new Obama campaign website, again collecting data on fellow Americans who disagree with the Administration
Placing the U.S. Census Bureau under the supervision of the White House Chief of Staff, by law the Department of Commerce.
His Justice Department’s smuggling of weapons, that the President signed off on funding for.
Manipulating jobs by hiring and rehiring Census workers.
Creating false districts and assigning stimulus funds to those districts.
Violating tax codes by releasing private tax details to the public when attacking Koch Industries.
Creating a taxpayer-funded position, Director of Progressive Media & Online Response, to promote Obama’s incumbent candidacy, in violation of the Hatch Act.
Obama’s filming of a campaign ad in the White House in violation of FEC laws.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by campanionator

Originally posted by Sparky63
reply to post by MrInquisitive
 


There is no proof that it was the budget cuts that prevented them from providing adequate security. In fact the hearing made it clear that the budget had little if nothing to do with the decision made.



Right here, sorry

www.huffingtonpost.com...


So where do HR bills end up?

Do they not go to the Senate then signed in to law by those other 2 branches ?

Why yes they are anything the Senate wants they add in,

The left owns Benghazi.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
I think a previous poster said it best.

If it was the GOP's fault, Obama would have come out of the gate with that first.

But they blamed a video first.
Then they stalled.
Then they blamed republicans.

Ready. Shoot. Blame.


No. Please give me just one example in which Obama has blamed the GOP for something he did. He is not like Bush II and the Bush II administration, which blamed everybody but themselves for what they did, or at best acknowledged -- long after the fact -- that "mistakes were made" but no one was ever punished for mistakes.

Remember Rumsfeld when questioned by a soldier in Iraq as to why all the troops were provided with adequate body armor and adequately armored vehicles, his response was (I'm paraphrasing): "You go to war with the forces you have, not the forces you want." This statement is patently false for the case of a war of choice, which is what the Iraq war was. There was no reason that it was necessary to attack when we did -- let alone attack at all. And please spare me the WMD baloney and the Saddam was working with Al Queda crap because that was all rhetorical bovine fecal matter.

You're post is so ironic. Here are all you right-wingers blaming Obama for everything, and then when it is pointed out that the GOP helped to cause a security problem by cutting the budget, you say, "no, that's not the case, because Obama would blame the GOP for it if it were true." You assume everybody plays the blame game like your right-wingers do. Turns out that not everybody -- and this includes Obama -- does that. You see, some people think that playing the blame game is a losing game. Clearly you folks don't of course.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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First they blamed the video.
-That didn't work.
Then they said it was under investigation.
-That stall didn't work
Then they blame the GOP.
-Now they look pathetic.

Who are they going to blame next?



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