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Borat Is A Religiously vilifying and racist Creation...so why is it not banned?

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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by NavyDoc

Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by Dr Expired
For those who not know of Borat.
www.movieministry.com...

Is Borat allowed to be aired because of the actors own religion?

Imagine if Borat was a depiction of an Israeli Jew.

It would never ever be aired on TV , or shown in the theatre.

The creator would be charged.

So why the double standard?



That is probably right. I think Borat gets away with his sacrilege because it is a comedy designed to entertain rather than a political piece designed to rile up the natives into shooting someone. I am waiting for the day, and it is around the corner when Christians and Jews are so blasphemed. I would like to see how they react.

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Happens all the time. Christ is mocked quite frequently. Mostly we see (shudder) strongly worded letters to the editor.



Yeah....That's similar.




posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by NavyDoc
 


I am patiently waiting for the "Absurdity of Christ" to come out depicting Jesus as a gay man who was having relations with all of the Apostles and the animals of the manger.

After that there will be "Torah! Torah! Torah!" A slapstick comedy about an enthusiastic Hasidic Jew who goes door to door selling the Holy book like an encyclopedia salesman. In a few scenes with the farmers daughter and of course the barnyard animals...the Hasid is shown finally showing the world what they are wearing under all that black garb. I understand when you pull a string the Rabbi spits out a candy like a PEZ dispenser.

It is going to be a hoot.


I'm a big Monty Python fan. LIfe of Brian sits on my shelf as does The Meaning of Life. Christianity and Christ is mocked in both those films just as badly as Borat.

I just saw Harold and Kumar's Christmas and one dream sequence involved "bottomless nuns" with crosses shaved into their pubic hair. Meh.

You seriously don't think that there is not some rather gross satire directed at Christians? Seriously? LOL.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by NavyDoc

Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by Dr Expired
For those who not know of Borat.
www.movieministry.com...

Is Borat allowed to be aired because of the actors own religion?

Imagine if Borat was a depiction of an Israeli Jew.

It would never ever be aired on TV , or shown in the theatre.

The creator would be charged.

So why the double standard?



That is probably right. I think Borat gets away with his sacrilege because it is a comedy designed to entertain rather than a political piece designed to rile up the natives into shooting someone. I am waiting for the day, and it is around the corner when Christians and Jews are so blasphemed. I would like to see how they react.

edit on 11-10-2012 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)


Happens all the time. Christ is mocked quite frequently. Mostly we see (shudder) strongly worded letters to the editor.



Yeah....That's similar.


Hey, those those Lutherans can be very mean. They might even give you a stony silence come hot dish Saturday.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by InhaleExhale
 


Yeah.. it does the the same thing with posters, those that don't think for themselves such as you.

There are ignorant people in every culture. You can walk out on the street and you can always find someone ignorant. Digging around and shooting scenes with multiple people until you find one ignorant enough that you get the shot is no different then scripting a scene. In the end you just have a racist movie, you just have a mean spirited parody and does it teach people anything? Or do they just go out and do bad imitations at thet expense of their Muslim friends and co workers.
Don't be ignorant. You sincerely believe that it's more likely that he is trying to do something positive for Muslims rather than maybe as a Jewish person and supporter of Israel maybe he just wasn't doing exactly what it looks like? Being a racist? Where do you think the character came from? A desire to show people that that's not what some Muslims are like, or to make fun of them and imply they are.

Think for yourself.


Again, where is it stated that Borat is Muslim?

He is doing nothing for any religion, race or ethnicity, he is an entertainer that seems to have fans that hate what he does such as yourself and fans that love him, so in conclusion he has captured almost all of the audience what an entertainer is trying to accomplish.

Please answer where Borat is depicted as Muslim, as this seems to be your issue, so let me see



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by InhaleExhale
 


It's with Borat, because people become and remain ignorant due to the perpetuation of stereotypes, and that is what Borat is. Borat is cultural trash.


So your issue isn't Borat but the gullibility of people.

And you call me ignorant and I cant think for myself, look a what your posting "It's with Borat, because people become and remain ignorant"

Because people become and remain ignorant by something they made a choice to watch and believe that s the Character of the said shows fault, not the people who chose to watch and become ignorant of the shows content.

Please explain this logic to me as I understand it its just like bashing your head against a wall, it makes no sense to those like myself who cant think for themselves.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by mr-lizard
 


Ali G. I don't know, I never watched his show, but my friends did. I am not trying to cry overblown conspiracy theory, but it is pretty obvious with this guy. Why would he try to do such a thing to a respectable guy like Ron Paul of ALL people. Have you seen his movies?


Ali G came long before borat, I suggest you watch it, then you'll see how he plays on everyday stereotypes and how its actually really clever.
As for the Ron Paul thing, it could've been anyone.
Why would a British comedian attempt to destroy the reputation of an american politician? All he was doing with Bruno was cleverly tricking Americans into showing their true opinions on gay people etc.
Which is something america has ALOT of catching up to do on.
Off topic I know but what are your views in south park?
Its similar in many ways, it uses current events to play on everyday stereotypes that most people ignore.
You can actually learn ALOT of important lessons from that show believe it or not



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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I think there's a scene in the Rodeo were the owner accuses Borat of being mistaken for a Muslim, he replies by telling 'I'm not muslim, I follow the hawk'

So yeah, he's not a muslim character. He does insult Jews, but the actor is jewish.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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It's called freedom of speech and freedom of expression. It's this simple: If you don't like it, don't watch it. It reminds me of how the conservative retards wanted Family Guy taken off the air years ago because they found it offensive. Around that time the creator Seth MacFarlane was on some talk show and he said the same thing - If you don't like it, pick up your damn remote control and change the channel, and don't watch it anymore. Just because one group of people doesn't like something doesn't give them the right to force everybody to stop partaking.

Also, you're six years late bringing this up. The film was released in 2006.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Dr Expired
 


That guy is a huge racist. His first movie is a racist caricature of muslims, his second movie he attacks Ron Paul and tries to make him look homophobic (Wonder why a rich Jewish guy would want to hurt Ron Paul's chances
) and his third movie is back to the Muslim topic.

If there was ever one Jewish guy in hollywood that had an agenda it's this guy.
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Paranoid much?




posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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reply to post by mr-lizard
 


Thats what I was getting at, yet to many posters think he seems to be impersonating a Muslim.

That in it self proves what you said earlier about him taking the piss out of people he encounters when in character.

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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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this is how they manipulate us. They keep us laughing at other cultures, whilst at the same time telling us it is bad, there are double standards everywhere. Most laws are written with loop holes so the powers that create them do not have to follow them.

New World Order BLOG



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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Not really. I said it was a possibility didn't I?
It's called thinking and considering all possibilities? Think inside the box much?
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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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I just want to say here that if we want to start banning religiously vilifying and racist movies, it will never end. We Americans have a raucous and completely inappropriate sense of humor...the stuff you talk about banning is the stuff we live on.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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reply to post by mr-lizard
 


Of course not, the character just comes from a predominantly Muslim country and hates Jews. Also the character in the dictator is certainly Muslim.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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Again. see my above post. You guys really really want to remain in denial, you must be huge fans. He's not THAT funny guys.
Why do I get the feeling that I am talking to two people that wore out Borat impressions?



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


I don't think it should be banned, but I am just opposed to this denial that it's not racist humor.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by AprenticeofLight
this is how they manipulate us. They keep us laughing at other cultures, whilst at the same time telling us it is bad, there are double standards everywhere. Most laws are written with loop holes so the powers that create them do not have to follow them.

New World Order BLOG


No one can manipulate you unless you allow it.

Laws are written so many not just the ones who write them dont follow for the purpose of further manipulation using fear of crime by the innocent to make more laws to be broken and the cycle repeats as the population increases.

there are double standards everywhere, however when one realizes that they can cancel each other out just by observation then one frees them selves from this manipulation and then sounds like a crazy person trying to explain it logically.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Flavian
 


Not really. I said it was a possibility didn't I?
It's called thinking and considering all possibilities? Think inside the box much?
edit on 11-10-2012 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)


Look back at your statement. You didn't say it was a possibility, your opening paragraph (that i quoted in previous post) stated that he is a racist. You then go on to say that he is the Jew with the biggest agenda in Hollywood.

The only one being racist is yourself - not Sacha Baron Cohen. There was no "thinking outside the box" involved, just a statement made by yourself.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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I am not being paranoid, he is racist. That is self evident. He very clearly has an agenda, that's not paranoia - but I'll forgive you for not knowing the definition. Also you and I both know you were making reference to the mention of Ron Paul where I very much did say it was a possibility. Also I didn't say he is the "jew with the biggest agenda in hollywood" that is just your lack in reading comprehension. I said if there ever was a jewish guy in hollywood with an agenda it is him. Meaning it is the most apparent not biggest. Not quite the spin artist you think you are.

Get real.
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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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No, we really don't know that. I will repeat. Your opening statement was that he was racist and you then go no to say he is clearly the jew with the biggest agenda in Hollywood - clearly a racist remark.

Now i don't for a minute think you actually are racist but i simply do not understand how you cannot see the irony there!

And i certainly do not think for a second that any of these creations are racist. In point of fact, reactions like yours actually prove the point he is making.

ETA:

Ok, i take your point about you actually saying "if there ever was a jewish guy in hollywood with an agenda it is him". However, you are still engaging in passive racism, by trying to force context onto his films that doesn't exist. You tell me to get real - fair enough. I tell you to get honest and say you are completely missing the point of these films.
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