Why We Need to Vote Romney! We Need Obama Out!!

reply to post by MystikMushroom


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Just reading through this thread makes me sad. It reminds me of all the die hard supporters of Obama that just wouldn't budge and swore to death he was the man to turn it all around. It amazes me that these candidates can lie straight to people's faces and STILL vote for them. Romney? Really? Sad, people just refuse to learn anything from the past. The people of America are just as much to blame for this mess we're in as the people being elected. Romney will fix nothing and would be far worse than Obama, but fear not, a year into a potential Romney-led America, you'll all be wondering what you were thinking just like all those who swore and bowed to Obama four years ago. Fools, really. Open your eyes.

It's just a competition between a liar and a bigger liar. The bigger liar being romney of course. I will not be voting for Obama, but it's completely crazy to me that someone would actually consider voting for someone like romney.. :/

Cthulu 2012

your just an obama hater everyone knows romneys the antichrist.

reply to post by AprenticeofLight


That may indeed be true, but there's nothing else really on TV right now. Well, I guess SOA is back, and Walking Dead starts up soon.

This NWO stuff has been discussed for decades and has yet to materialize. Globalism certainly has expanded, but I don't see the "Amero" being used as currency yet. Doom and gloom have been predicted since the dawn of man. Every generation believes that their generation is the last generation.

I still would like to keep a little faith that the system can somehow be salvaged.

The president really has no control over private business. If anything private enterprise controls the president. Blaming Obama for our nations economic ailments is testament to a complete misunderstanding of why we're in this situation. The president doesn't create jobs.

reply to post by Athin


I hate to break this to you...

US DEBT REACHES $16 TRILLION AND KEEPS ON GOING

You could have whoever you like running the country, the entire system your government and nation operates on is flawed and will not change even with Romney as POTUS.

What part of this are Americans not understanding? Every citizen in the USA from newborn to near death now has a debt attached to them of $51k.

This is insane, and no Human being in that position is going to magically stop the economic collapse of your country. This debt is not sustainable.

The choice you have to make is one between a man who understands economics in the long term, or a Republican businessman who thinks the only way to deal with a debt is to stop spending more than you earn right now. That doesn't work!

It might work in a household, and it might work in a profit making business, but it DOES NOT WORK in a socioeconomic system!

Let me put it this way, even if Romney cuts 100% of the military budget, 100% of the social welfare system, 100% of government spending, you would still not even come close to paying off the debt! Not even close!

Now, say Romney decides (like our idiot Osborne in the UK) to cut social systems by a few billion. He might save a few billion now (even though it won't touch the national debt) but poverty will rise, crime will rise, spending will shrink, GDP will shrink, policing costs will rise, protests will rise, prison populations will rise... saving a few billion now through cutting social systems will cost hundreds of billions over the coming five to ten years.

This is why you CANNOT elect a cut-throat profiteering businessman to the office of the POTUS. If you do, you are digging your hole even deeper.

Mark my words, if the USA elects a corporate businessman who thinks he can make a quick $ and "save the nation" it will be a catastrophe.

You need a president who understands that the balancing of the nations finances needs to start with increasing GDP, through taxation of those who avoid it, promotion of national business and growth, restrictions on profiteering capitalism, and a managed lowering of spending in the right places. Romney will not do that. The only person I have seen who is likely to do that is Obama.

I am not fan of Obama, just as you state you're no fan of Romney. I am a political atheist. But I truly believe that if the US elects a capitalist like Romney, one who has no clear answers other than "I'm a businessman" you are in for an extremely rough ride.

But, you guys voted for Bush a second time, so it wont surprise me to see you make things worse by electing another idiot.

The way I look at it is right now I am paying $3.75 a gallon for gas. Whoever wins the election, I am pretty darn sure it's going to at least stay there, or most likely rise. We all know a squirrel will run out in front of a fuel truck and cause the price to go up by about 40 cents, or some such nonsense excuse. I doubt it matters much at all who wins anymore. Most of us, in the country and right here on this site are going to get screwed either way, so I see no reason to cheer lead for any party.

reply to post by Athin


so what exactly is the difference between romney and obama because i just can't quite see it.

reply to post by Athin


We could still write in votes for RP, or hell even Jesse Ventura, or we could vote Gary Johnson.

BUT WHY MITT ROMNEY? The guy is a total flipflopping assclown, who doesnt give two #s about America, or the American people.

How can anyone with a functioning brain support Mitt Romney OR Obama?

We're gonna keep getting raped by the same stick, just held by a different hand, that is controlled by the same masters...

Give up OP. I agree with you completely, but people here will never quite get it. They're so proud of their "outside-of-the-norm" views that they will throw away their votes just to prove it. Like Obamacare would ever even be remotely conceived if Mccain were elected. Come on now guys.

Originally posted by Athin

When Obama took office gas was 1.75 Now it's 3.71

(this also go's for other statements made by the OP

If you really are in the CSP thing, you would understand this.

Obama has no control over gas or economy. Rite before Obama was elected, the economy began to fail, as soon as he became president, the economy turned to #. It isn't because of him, its because of the ECONOMY. In the 1930, the depression hit....why? Not because of the president, but because the stock market crashed and it caused a chain reaction. Its up to the president to change things in order to effect the economy.

Also, gas (oil, gasoline, etc) doesn't come from the government. Other Corporations/companies produce them and sell them. As tensions and economical problems grew in other areas, the prices arose. Look at Iran for example. They are the ones raising the price, not us. If there's less oil, prices go up. If there's more, prices go down.

I just wanted to make that point clear. But on many of your other points i agree. But what you are mainly saying is, lets get the parasite out, and replace it with another parasite. In the end, we have the same or more problems, it just runs/works differently. So there is no point in removing him. The gas prices won't have anything to do with this, the economy is still going to to be #ed, and we're still going to be lied to about the stuff around us.

Also OP i'd like to help you out


Obama said that as soon as he would be elected, he would remove troops from the middle east. But no, he publicly announces that hes sending some million, then ten thousand, then thousands of more troops into the area.


Its all lies. They try to infect their hearts with lies so that they vote for them because it will do good for them. But once they're in they throw away all those words spoken..

Well, there is nothing like a Pro-Romney thread to form the largest hate-Romney bash going at the moment. You'd think a poor conservative couldn't get a word in edgewise to see how completely and thoroughly a thread of this nature becomes not just kinda different, but polar opposite to where it started. Wow...

Now I don't know how Romney will be as the President of the United States. Frankly. NO ONE does and anyone saying different is a psychic fit to claim that million dollar prize I heard about awhile back or political hacks and liars.

Personally, I have a hunch how Romney will lead...and it's an educated guess by his background of being a very successful businessman and Governor that even Ted Kennedy could work with. ....ironically, that was my largest PROBLEM with him for quite some time. He's TOO similar to the far left and was TOO welcome by the "Lion of the Senate" and Pappa Smurf to the far left crowd on Capital Hill. It's ironic to now see Romney painted and smeared with the images of the very very WORST any stereotype of the far right can be conjured to present. Damn, people... He's not Satan incarnate.

What he is, is a typical and fairly garden variety breed of corrupt politician and one I've frankly gotten used to. We have it at ALL levels from the crooked councilpersons of Bell, Ca. (Oh..how Republican of them..lol..not) to the Halls of Congress and basically EVERY SINGLE candidate that has been in this race at all....except for ONE. Ron Paul is the exception....and he's now a Congressman about to retire. No longer a candidate.

Follow the money and the money speaks. Political Contributors Per Candidate - Top 5

Looking at that by sector is even better.

You know the view I personally like best though? It's an informative view, indeed.

Detailed Breakdown of Bundlers by Name and Company for Barack Obama
Detailed Breakdown of Bundlers by Name and Company for Mitt Romney

They are both bought and paid for to some degree...although the President who would keep lobbyists out, as he SO clearly declared in 2008 seems to have them all over the place and flooding him with money these days.

The question really is, which Special Interest funded type is best as our economy tanks? Would it be the one who represents those most BADLY HURT by a tanking economy and MOST DESPERATE to see that change and improve? Or would it be the one represented by the interests largely insulated from the damage of the economy if not, in some ways, helped by it?

Personally, those who speak with dollars for each speak to me as to who their masters really are, taken one step below whatever we figure is pulling the ultimate strings world wide. There are damn sure levels to this whole mess above us, IMO. In a crash, I want the guy who represents those that NEED SUCCESS. Why? The only way they GET success is if consumers can consume and that takes MONEY which requires a better economy.

See the logic?

However, for top funders like Obama has...and as good as THAT set of priorities would be in a prosperous time when social issues could afford to be a major national focus, at the moment they aren't NEARLY as hurt by economic problems as I want to see the people pulling the President's strings.....when we ALL agree there's gonna be SOMEONE back there doing it on any of them.


In some real and honest to God ways, the Government BENEFITS from bad economic times now because it justifies it's own GROWTH by DEBT at near endless levels at this point.....this is NOT the benefit of the "evil bankers" Romney is influenced by....it's Obama's vision of Utopia.

^^^ THAT is the BIGGEST difference between the two as individual MEN who will sit in the seat and personally make the decisions day in and day out for 4 long years. ...we WILL have one of them. WHICH is the only question to settle next month.

reply to post by Athin


I can not find the energy to address your post. So I will let this image speak for me....



Get the point?

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


It's not "Romney-bashing" to state the facts.

No president, whoever you elect, is going to fix the economic system for you in the next four years, or in the next twenty.

If Americans were actually aware of their own national debt and what $16 trillion actually means, most people would be voting for the man less likely to screw them over in the coming four years. That's the most you can hope for!

Who, out of Romney and Obama, is LESS LIKELY to support big business over the welfare of the nation? Who is MORE LIKELY to understand the importance of social cohesion? Who is MOST PLAUSIBLY going to run the country for the majority of people, rather than a minority of wealthy aristocrats?

As an outsider, it's a no-brainer.

You can argue about Obamacare, the military, gay marriage, who smiles more in a debate and who sweats the most, but it's all meaningless. Your nation is in a hole, the only thing people should be thinking about is which one of these men is less likely to attack middle America and the most vulnerable.

Is this a joke thread? I actually chuckled a little while reading the OP because of how ridiculous it sounds. Lets vote for a lesser criminal to get rid of a bigger criminal, makes sense!

Hilarious

reply to post by detachedindividual

I, of all people, am aware of the stats and numbers on the budget. You're 100% right. From decades of mismanagement, stinkin thinkin, GREED and an underlying stench of something more than a bit evil out of the early 20th century, we ARE GOING TO CRASH. I know that and I know Romney can't stop it.

No one can stop it at this point and thats plain, cold, hard and non-negotiable fact.

I wrote a whole thread on it..with much research and fanfare. I've said that very thing in a hundred ways and across threads for months.

I'm not voting for Romney to see him do mission impossible. In the Great Depression Part Deux, I don't want a socialist failure trying to figure out how to REBUILD an entire economy. Obama's idea of a great mind at Treasury is Timmy 'The Tax Cheat' Geithner for goodness sakes.....and Panetta for CIA?! THEN Defense?! I mean damn, Obama's own inexperience is only surpassed by his bad judgement in selecting people around him. Hillary was, as bad as it is to say, the only GOOD choice he made for a solid Cabinet member.

So.. No.. I don't expect Romney to kiss it and make it better. I just don't believe Romney will take a chainsaw to injuries already raw and open. He's LIVED the economic reality of business that Obama only READ BOOKS about....and Romney has the real world experience of selecting the right people when it matters. If he did NOT have that skill, he wouldn't BE rich...He'd be in a trailer park dreaming of what might have been....or bitching on an internet forum.

In a bad economy you want economic people. That's Mittens..and that's as simple as she comes.

I usually don't write on US election politics but now I will. I am European.
Obama has obvious shortages. The biggest of which his program of reform did not materialize at least not as much as the world would like to see. The economic crisis is contained, not resolved. It became now EU crisis instead.

But if you vote for ROmney, it is Cold War back and even worse. There is no time and conditions for a next cold war. Bush barely missed Putin's missiles in the Fall 2008 when 2 ships, 2 planes and 2 subs were sent to the US shores on different time to signal major change in policy should Obama is not elected. You remember the Venezuelan-Caribbean adventure at that time that could be rightfully called Cuba-2. Now there aren't such demonstrations. But the US missiles in Europe and the ongoing crisis in Syria are enough. RUssian officials warned endlessly, including on a special conference with computer graphics, that those missiles are against Russia, and as a consequence they will be shot down before launch, should the international situation aggravates. That is to say, Russia will attack NATO country Poland should the situation in Middle East goes out of control, to secure its vicinity in case of WW3. But isn't it already WW3 if Russia attacks NATO-Poland-US rockets? Still the big rockets are not fired up.

ROmney elected - you vote for a Nuclear war on a fast track. May be even days after November 6. Putin won't wait Romney to pull the trigger first. There could be only one hypothetical winner of a massive nuclear war, and that is the one who shoots first. Research the ww3 scenarios now available online. Romney is that man - ready to pull the trigger. And because Putin or whoever are the masters in Kremlin are not that stupid, they will pull it first. So you may well decide the fate of America in these elections. And by extension - the fate of the world. 100 megatons exploded anywhere ON the surface (not atmosphere) are enough to produce nuclear winter. Some scientists as Rand McNally and even Oppenheimer in early years feared even a burning of atmospheric N2 in a fusion chain reaction - burning the atmosphere!

It is not strange that the Russians prepared 5000 new bunkers in Moscow alone - posted on RT vid, and suspected large underground facilities and cities in remote locations. We know the name of two - Yamantau Mt and underground mining city in Siberia - Norilsk (video on RT). Rumors say there are 200.
And the authorities make also psychological preparation of their public and their children with a song like that:

Neposedy Russian N1 kids pop band sings of a winter and darkness over the entire the planet. I don't have the exact text but it is something like that.

reply to post by Athin


Common sense pary is ironically lacking in common sense if they believe there will be a difference between the candidates. I can't take a "common sense party" seriously back either of the two main candidates when there are common sense candidates out there.