Biden: People can Barely Pay To Fill Up Their Gas Tank

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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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Biden Complains People 'Can Barely Pay To Fill Their Gas Tank' - Back In '08 Debate






During the 2008 vice presidential debate, Joe Biden complained about how gas prices were so high at the time that the average “Joe” couldn’t afford to fill up his tank


cnsnews.com...

I remember that gas prices where "atrocious" during the Bush years, but today what's that?

Where are the nonstop "news stories" about how evil big oil is, and Bush should be doing more. 4 years later nothing but the defeaning silence from the hypocritical left.

California is being devastated right now with crazy prices statewide then moving east the prices are a little less, but still people are suffering.

Does the current administration really care? unless it's a political pundits talking point guess not. The higher prices are the less they consume, but it also has another effect of conservation that fits perfectly with the green initiative.

According to this: www.eia.gov... there are 139 billion gallons consumed each year, where the government get's its gasoline sales tax of .18 cents.

Which translates in to a lot of money for the government.

Somewhere in the last 4 years the high price of gasoline has been "lost in translation", but where millions of Americans are still having to pick between food or gas which both have gone up.

Bunch of hypocrites.
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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:04 PM
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During bush era gas prices were above 4.40 in michigan, now its 3.75. I guess i dont matter about my complaints Neo, cause i live in michigan, its a small demographic
I'm just joking with u

Stop blaming Obama dawg
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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan River
During bush era gas prices were above 4.40 in michigan, now its 3.75. I guess i dont matter about my complaints Neo, cause i live in michigan, its a small demographic
I'm just joking with u


Didn't stop people from blaming Bush did it?

Heavily democratically controlled states(New York,California) always have the highest gas prices I have observed, and also the highest cost of living.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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Its really not hard to understand why the economy continues to fail. If you pay 60+ dollars to fill your tank to get to work each week, buying necessities like food, water, and rent, electricity, heat, you really don't have a whole lot to pump back into the economy.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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Didn't stop people from blaming Bush did it?


Did you blame bush?

If not, why blame Obama now?


You were saying something about being hypocritical?



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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Naturaly (not entirely) people who live in large urban cities tend to vote more democracy, Hollywood, Newyork, Michigan. Only places where rifles, Clanning (kkk) and hunting are more conservative, you know God fearing papal controled individuals. I'm just explaining it through a mainstream point of view

Lets be honest, Democracy Vs repbluican is as old as the Union vs The confederate
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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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Holding the current potus to the same standards that were set for the last one is not hypocritical.

Gas prices are higher now and it is a non issue for those who condemned Bush for it.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Non parisanly stated and blame assessed correctly here... from a liberal - and that was two years ago. Why blame Bush or Cheney when the oil companies are the ones laughing all the way to the bank.

~Heff



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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online.wsj.com...

Evil Big oil!!!!



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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Yes evil big oil. And, imagine that? The current POTUS tried to reduce the taxpayers subsidies to these highly profitable conglomerates and got slammed by the other party.

Cake and eat it too?


~Heff



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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If we could build some more refineries this issue would be greatly diminished....or it might not be so painful at the pump...



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
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Yes evil big oil. And, imagine that? The current POTUS tried to reduce the taxpayers subsidies to these highly profitable conglomerates and got slammed by the other party.

Cake and eat it too?


~Heff


So let me get this straight those people who shoulder the burden of cost,takes all the risk then deal with EPa regulations, spend billions of dollars to bring that oil to market where a person just has to drive to the pump and press a button to put gas in their car is evil.

Glad we got that sorted.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by chrismarco
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If we could build some more refineries this issue would be greatly diminished....or it might not be so painful at the pump...


Yeah if we could but those EPA restrictions can explain why there haven't been any new refineries built since the 70s.


About 100 miles southwest of Phoenix, in a remote patch off Interstate 8, Glenn McGinnis is seeking to do something that has not been done for 29 years in the United States. He is trying to build an oil refinery.


www.nytimes.com...



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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I'm amused and wondering why you're not nailing them for their socialist support of taxpayer subsidies here. I mean that is socialism right? Giving our hard earned money to others?

You're leaving me confused on this one neo.

~Heff



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
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I'm amused and wondering why you're not nailing them for their socialist support of taxpayer subsidies here. I mean that is socialism right? Giving our hard earned money to others?

You're leaving me confused on this one neo.

~Heff


Define subsidy

139 billion of gallons are sold the us government gets a cut off the top thats over 25 billion a year which is returning more than paid in.

A subsidy where nothing is returned and just throw money at a hole that returns nothing is evil yes?



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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The POTUS has little to no effect on gas prices. It is driven by the market. IF he could, then someone would jump up and down like their head was on fire screaming "socialist!".

Even if he opens up "our" land...aka...national lands for drilling...are you really so silly to think they will "thank us" with lower prices? If so, I got a really good deal on some ocean from property in West Virginia for sale.

It's nice to blame Gov when things don't go your way and cow tail to the "wonderful corporations and job creators"...guess who is sticking it in your butt everytime you fill up on gas? That's right...Wall Street and the "job creators"...that's who...

Get past these losers already...





posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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The POTUS has little to no effect on gas prices. It is driven by the market. IF he could, then someone would jump up and down like their head was on fire screaming "socialist!"


This is not true ban off offshore drilling, making policy that translates in to legislation to burn corn for fuel, and other things we all know.

So yes the Potus does or what the hell do we have a potus for.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Here is an interesting read:

The Surprising Reason That Oil Subsidies Persist: Even Liberals Love Them




If you were to survey people and ask the question “Should we subsidize oil companies?” — the overwhelming majority would undoubtedly respond “ No!” The idea that we are subsidizing oil companies generates outrage in many people, but in this article I will show why these subsidies aren’t going to go away any time soon. The reason may surprise you.


www.forbes.com...

Yeah lets end them subsides!!!!!



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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Why is gas so high in California when there's 5 huge refineries in San Francisco?


Turns out the place where gas prices tend to be the highest in the nation, San Francisco....

.... is just across the Bay from five major oil refineries that together are the largest exporters of petroleum products in the nation (Brookings Institution, New York Times, March 8, 2012). In 2010, the period of the report, the five refineries exported $7.8 billion in petroleum products, an increase of 10% over prior year. Other refineries on the West Coast have also experienced booming export sales. Last December alone, West Coast refineries exported over one million barrels of gasoline, eight times as much as in 2007.



Read more: articles.businessinsider.com...


US exported more oil than imported last year

Whitehouse report here

Surely this must all be lies. No way Obama could be good for big oil.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
Why is gas so high in California when there's 5 huge refineries in San Francisco?


Turns out the place where gas prices tend to be the highest in the nation, San Francisco....

.... is just across the Bay from five major oil refineries that together are the largest exporters of petroleum products in the nation (Brookings Institution, New York Times, March 8, 2012). In 2010, the period of the report, the five refineries exported $7.8 billion in petroleum products, an increase of 10% over prior year. Other refineries on the West Coast have also experienced booming export sales. Last December alone, West Coast refineries exported over one million barrels of gasoline, eight times as much as in 2007.



Read more: articles.businessinsider.com...


US exported more oil than imported last year

Whitehouse report here

Surely this must all be lies. No way Obama could be good for big oil.


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it would appear that the article is faulty, unless they are assuming that Canadian oil is no longer an import.

They are talking about a daily imports average of 269,000 barrels/day in 2010...um, Alberta (alone) exported an average of 1.4 million barrels/day to the US.

Minor discrepancy I guess?





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