posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 01:21 PM
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady
If you believe suicide leads to hell, can you provide scripture, which supports this? I do not think you completely understand the sacrifice God has
presented for us.
Suicide is but a sin. No greater than a white lie. A lie is no greater than the atrocities Hitler committed in the eyes of the lord because you are
already damned no matter how small or innocent the sin seems; you go to hell. No sin is above Jesus Christ. If Hitler begged for salvation, he would
have received it. Why? Because Jesus conquered all sin and death through his sacrifice. No sin is above him, and you cannot sin enough to overcome his
If you do not believe this, then you believe Satan, and men are more powerful than God's mercy.
By the way, believing in an invisible being is NOT Logical. It requires "Faith". If you walked up to a scientist and said God is logical. He would
probably call the police.
Logic= Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity
Principles of Validity - A sample design is called valid only when the inferences drawn from it are valid for the universe from which the sample has
been taken. At a later stage we will arrive at a conclusion that in general, samples which are drawn at random would be found to be more valid then
those drawn otherwise. Even here many considerations have to be kept in mind. Not only the sample has to be random but. its size, has to be adequate
and the collection of data and its analysis have to be scientifically done.
Please be careful with using Logic with some one who thinks they are a smart person. You'll turn them away quickly.
Romans 8:38–39 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers,nor height nor
depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord
YOU CANNOT remove yourself from salvation. Killing yourself is nothing but a sin, which is covered. You are a created being. God created you;
therefore, you fall under this verse, his word. If you are saved, and you commit suicide, you will be with Jesus in heaven.
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady
Also, Catholicism is a sinful religion. If you believe in salvation, that you must ask Jesus into your heart, that he died on the cross for your sins,
and that he is the only way to the father. Then i believe you're saved.
There is a reason Protestants were killed just like pagans. There is a reason our fore fathers left Europe and came to America.
Mass is sinful. Paying respects to statues or paintings is sinful. Having statues in your church is sinful. Purgatory is not real, only hell / heaven
is. Ritualistic chants or prayers are sinful. Praying to saints or Mary for blessings or guidance is sinful. You cannot go from purgatory to heaven,
there is no Limbo, and you cannot atone for any of your sins. Only Jesus can save you.
Fatima was also a DEMON. Not Mary. Mary has no reason to appear before man or give them signs. Only Jesus. Mary also would not order any kind of
temple to be erected in her name. Why? She is merely a woman, a woman who found favor with God. That is it.
There is no reason to tell a priest your sins. He cannot forgive you or pray for God to forgive you. He also cannot absolve you of a single thing. Not
one. Calling a "Father" Father is sinful. You have but ONE Father and that is Yahweh, God the Father.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (1 Timothy 2:5)
A priest cannot, and is NOT your mediator in any way shape or form.
edit on 14-10-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
To answer the question "do I believe people go to Hell for suicide?" I hope not. I DO NOT KNOW.
You attack on Catholicism is very judgemental. "Judge not less you shall be judged." I pray the Lord is merciful you. It is your
that it is a sinful religion. Your opinion is not a fact.
I pray God forgives you because is it also written
"that whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me."
I really don't appreciate non Catholics telling me what I believe because what you say is ridiculous. Somewhere someone told you these things about
our evil Church and you believe them. If you want to know what we believe start with the Apostle’s Creed. Please go to
for information about my faith.
I doubt that you will because you already have judged my faith, but I put it out there anyway.
My forefathers left Europe for religious persecution as well.
sad eyed lady
edit on 10/14/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)