posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 08:37 AM
reply to post by OratoryHeist
If the whole point of the is debate is for me to say that I don’t know for certain that Operation Neptune Spear took place then yes, I can never
been 100% certain as I said in my previous post but also pointed out the flaws in taking this argument. Yes I do accept that there is a very small
change that the operation to take out bin laden did not happen, however in the face of the evidence I think that possibility is negligible.
Speaking of evidence, to recap my sources. Yes the Whitehouse is a source for some of but not all of my information, and yes the Whitehouse does lie
but on this I do not believe they would lie. My other sources do include Pakistan itself, we know the compound was there, we have seen the pictures of
it and even the blood marks on the ground, we have the Twitter Feeds, eye whiteness accounts and what the Pakistani government has to say about it not
to mention the secret helicopter sitting at the compound. Then there is the media, yes they draw on what the Whitehouse have to say but also other
government agencies, independent individuals and what other states said about the assassination. Even Al-Qa’ida themselves confirmed his death
Then we have the books which provide further evidence but I would also like to say this is where I really do think for myself contrary to what you may
think. Take for example “No Easy Day” by Mark Owen, this book is written by one of the members of the team who took out Bin Laden it offers some
variation in the Whitehouse account, I believe this version over the Whitehouse account. Then there is “Manhunt” by Peter Bergan, perhaps the
best account of that operation as it gives a very good historical background to the attack and draws on a vast number of sources. Lastly we have
“Seal Target Geronimo” by Chuck Pfarrer, this book is riddled with historical inaccuracies and political bias as such I don’t give it much
credibility as a definitive account of the operation.
So The reason I say that I am confident that the operation took place that day is not just because the Whitehouse told me so but because I have looked
at all the evidence there are multiple sources. I have, contrary to what you think, asked myself the questions such as “why did they not bury him
at sea” and so on. When I look at the sum of the evidence I can only conclude that the operation did take place that day. For me it is a historical
fact because all of this evidence is in agreement that during operation Neptune spear Osama Bin Laden was killed, “Geronimo EKIA” to quote the
Seal’s on the operation directly.
Yes there is some variation in how exactly how the operation went down and inconstancy with the Whitehouse version early on does muddy the waters.
However I am yet to see a single piece of evidence that contradicts the notion that Bin Laden was killed that day, yes it is a remote possibility but
until I start seeing evidence to the contrary for me it is a historical fact that during operation Neptune spear on 1st of May 2011 Osama Bin Laden
was assassinated by NSWDG in Abbottabad Pakistan.