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Originally posted by inverslyproportional
the bus driver that threatenned to kick my kids off the bus for not waiting outside in the 7 dgree winter for the bus
Originally posted by sweetooth
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by sweetooth
But if a kid is being beat up by an older brother, or who deals with a drunk father coming home, emotionally and physically abusing them, and they don't know how to react or even socialize, they are indeed, a victim.
stop being a sad hippie nixie-nox. if indeed he is being treated badly at home then he still has no right to take it out on someone else. it is people like you who try to make people powerless against their attackers and make their lives worse. i really hope your kids get bullied one day.edit on 11-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
Originally posted by TrueBrit
Nixie-Nox, I appreciate that you believe that people should understand the position a bully may be in, and I understand where you are coming from. However, in these sick times we are living in, it just so happens that all that popular psychology guff means nothing.
It is by NO means true that people who see the need to bully have difficult or unusual home lives, any more than anyone else does.
"When you really take a close look at bullying, it's happening with kids who feel the need to be aggressive after being treated in an aggressive manner themselves," says Paul Quinlan, D.O., director of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry Inpatient Services at the U-M Health System. "They're the kids who may be suffering from abuse or from just not having their needs met at school or at home
•Bully-victims reported the most child maltreatment (44%), which included experiences with physical and psychological abuse and neglect.
•Bully-victims also reported the highest rates of sexual victimization (32%), which included experiences with sexual harassment as well as sexual abuse, and included familial and non-familial perpetrators.
•Bully-victims and bullies witnessed higher levels of victimization within their homes (e.g., domestic violence) and communities (e.g., witnessing attacks) than other youth (59% for bully-victims, 61% for bullies).
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And at the age ranges we are talking about, if the little punk hasnt learned to respect his fellow human being yet, then he damned well should have, and should suffer the consequences of his willful ignorance.
The idea that the lifestyle issues suffered by a bully are in any way relavent, is precisely as flawed as the idea that a person can get away with murder because they are suffering from a psychological complain
There is a new psychological mysfunction for every day of the bloody week these days, The only way to prevent them from being a danger to other students, is to manage them properly, and by that I mean by kicking thier sorry, maladjusted butts until either they die of it, or they learn some god damned respect for other people. I confess, after the amount of crap I went through at the hands of fatherless jerks like the one who got slapped by this innocent student, I can confirm, that the pain of the bully, is meaningless, of no consequence, if paying attention to it means a single innocent is harmed, emotionally or physically.
Remember also, if it is true what you say, and a kids home life and upbringing are really what drives thier behavior, then maybe its too late for them once the reach school. All the more reason to terminate the vicious, toxic little vermin before they reach adult hood and do even bigger damage, to even more people.
Originally posted by Xterrain
Kids who pick fights should be taken out of schools indefinitely and schooled elsewhere. They're parents should be investigated and our standards for parenthood should be MUCH higher. If you're unfit and don't fit those standards, you should have your children removed, yours sex organs 'fixed', and restraining order placed.
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
More evidence of our "nanny state." Too many crybaby parents complaining is what got us here. Kids are going to be kids, and there are certain things kids should be left to learn on their own. In this case, obviously the school did not do anything to remedy the situation, and the kid did what he was pushed into doing. Sometimes there are no other options, and people may say that the kid should have just kept taking the abuse, which is just plain wrong.
Schools have a tendency of punishing anyone who was in a fight, no matter if they were just defending themselves or not. It is human instinct to defend oneself if one does not immediately calculate that they can run, which usually is not a conscious decision, but a split second reaction. They should not be punished for this either.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
Originally posted by sweetooth
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by sweetooth
But if a kid is being beat up by an older brother, or who deals with a drunk father coming home, emotionally and physically abusing them, and they don't know how to react or even socialize, they are indeed, a victim.
stop being a sad hippie nixie-nox. if indeed he is being treated badly at home then he still has no right to take it out on someone else. it is people like you who try to make people powerless against their attackers and make their lives worse. i really hope your kids get bullied one day.edit on 11-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
*laughs* So your answer is to not understand why bullying occurs to stop it, then you call me a name, then you advocate that someone bully my son.
Your only knee jerk reaction is to perpetuate bullying, with more bullying. Your answer to ignorance is more ignorance.
It is not making people helpless. You address the problem at the source. And hold the parents liable for their child's behavior.
Not only that, you further perpetuate the problem by assuming a child, who has had no guidance, no education on emotional intelligence, no parenting, to suddenly have adult logic and should just "know better".
It doesn't work that way.
Children reflect the upbringing they receive.
I witnessed my child being bullied, an innocent and sweet 5 yo, by a 9 year old. How? His mother was a friend who got mad at me, brought her 9yo into the situation, and encouraged him to say nasty things to my son. So the 9yo was not only encouraged, but coached to attack a 5yo. By your standards, the mother wasn't responsible.
As a result of his alcoholic, crazy, promiscuous, and aggressive single mother, an otherwise normal kid will end up in jeuvy by the time he is 16.
But instead we will just play your way, just hit the kid, hope mine gets bullied, and this will magically solve everything, as opposed to addressing the root of the issue: completely dysfunctional parents and homelife.
hi nixie-nox. you say you were once friends with his 'alcoholic, crazy, promiscuous, and aggressive single mother'. wise choice of friend. trying to 'help' her were you?! lmao. why am i never suprised by the reasoning of hippies..?edit on 12-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
Originally posted by sweetooth
hi nixie-nox. you say you were once friends with his 'alcoholic, crazy, promiscuous, and aggressive single mother'. wise choice of friend. trying to 'help' her were you?! lmao. why am i never suprised by the reasoning of hippies..?edit on 12-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by sweetooth
hi nixie-nox. you say you were once friends with his 'alcoholic, crazy, promiscuous, and aggressive single mother'. wise choice of friend. trying to 'help' her were you?! lmao. why am i never suprised by the reasoning of hippies..?edit on 12-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me....
Great "Christian attitude" ya have there....
Originally posted by sweetooth
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by sweetooth
hi nixie-nox. you say you were once friends with his 'alcoholic, crazy, promiscuous, and aggressive single mother'. wise choice of friend. trying to 'help' her were you?! lmao. why am i never suprised by the reasoning of hippies..?edit on 12-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me....
Great "Christian attitude" ya have there....
i'm not christian so why would i have a christian attitude? i just fail to understand the rationale of hippies. besides im not the one calling someone an 'alcoholic crazy promiscuous and aggressive single mother' am i? that just about sums up the ideology of hippies. everything is ok and permitted unless it happens to them.edit on 12-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by sweetooth
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Originally posted by sweetooth
hi nixie-nox. you say you were once friends with his 'alcoholic, crazy, promiscuous, and aggressive single mother'. wise choice of friend. trying to 'help' her were you?! lmao. why am i never suprised by the reasoning of hippies..?edit on 12-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me....
Great "Christian attitude" ya have there....
i'm not christian so why would i have a christian attitude? i just fail to understand the rationale of hippies. besides im not the one calling someone an 'alcoholic crazy promiscuous and aggressive single mother' am i? that just about sums up the ideology of hippies. everything is ok and permitted unless it happens to them.edit on 12-10-2012 by sweetooth because: i think i am dyselxic
Sounds more like the "human condition" than a "hippie condition".
BTW, "hippie" is out. Most of the "hippies" from the 60's are now members of the teaparty and they take great offense to that. Funny they didn't fill you in on that at the last meeting you attended
Originally posted by sweetooth
what on earth does that even mean purplechiten? this is exactly the reason why we are ruled over by a nanny state. i'm suprised you lot aren't stuffing yourselves full of lentils and growing your pubes for the age of aquarius. here's a petition. go fill it in.