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reply posted on 10-10-2012 @ 09:11 AM by littled16
reply to post by Saucerwench


This story surprised me, as my own TSA experience at the airport in the Sea-Tac area was not a problem, as in no pat down at all. However I don't understand why they didn't honor her request for a more private screening. There was no reason for them to humiliate her in such a way other than they were just being lazy and disrespectful. I believe that in her position I would seek the advice of an attorney. I don't know that I would want to sue them for a lot of money, but I think I would want to try to do something to force them to honor requests for private screenings to protect myself and others from such a humiliating situation in the future.



reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 05:26 AM by Zaphod58
reply to post by GreenGlassDoor


If you think that the airlines have no say in the matter when it comes to security though think again. The FAA oversees the TSA, and they work hand in hand with the airline council, which is made up of the major carriers at every airport. The FAA is so in bed with the airlines that it's not even funny.


reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 09:36 AM by GreenGlassDoor
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by GreenGlassDoor


If you think that the airlines have no say in the matter when it comes to security though think again. The FAA oversees the TSA, and they work hand in hand with the airline council, which is made up of the major carriers at every airport. The FAA is so in bed with the airlines that it's not even funny.


The Department of Homeland Security oversees the TSA. Once again, your argument falls flat on its face.


reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 10:52 AM by Zaphod58
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And the FAA works with DHS to oversee security. The DHS people that worked at my airport came directly from the FAA and worked out of the FAA office, from the exact same desk they had before the TSA took over.
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reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 09:22 PM by GreenGlassDoor
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by GreenGlassDoor


And the FAA works with DHS to oversee security. The DHS people that worked at my airport came directly from the FAA and worked out of the FAA office, from the exact same desk they had before the TSA took over.
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I'm sorry, what exactly do you think the FAA did prior to 9/11?



reply posted on 12-10-2012 @ 11:39 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by GreenGlassDoor


I know EXACTLY what they did. I helped train many of them on some of the security equipment. And they did the exact same thing after 9/11. You can try to say I'm wrong all you want, but when you buy that ticket for that flight, you agree to any procedure deemed necessary. It's in the fine print of the ticket, along with just about every other conceivable thing they could think of including how much your bag is worth on an international flight, and how much they have to pay you.


reply posted on 13-10-2012 @ 02:47 AM by GreenGlassDoor
Originally posted by Zaphod58
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I know EXACTLY what they did. I helped train many of them on some of the security equipment. And they did the exact same thing after 9/11. You can try to say I'm wrong all you want, but when you buy that ticket for that flight, you agree to any procedure deemed necessary. It's in the fine print of the ticket, along with just about every other conceivable thing they could think of including how much your bag is worth on an international flight, and how much they have to pay you.


Now you're trying to change your original statement and backing away from the airline-government cabal.

Moreover, I think you are misremembering some things.

Go read AC 107-1. It outlines the FAA security procedures. They only had an administrative role in security, not the actual implementation and execution. So I really doubt the FAA was at your airport doing security sweeps.

To curb that you might say, "Oh, this is old! It was written in 1972!", it was used all the way to 9/11. Here is the Federal Register citing it in July of 2001.


reply posted on 13-10-2012 @ 02:52 AM by BIHOTZ
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hell yes!

I say get people who have experience and are already trained in combat and security.

HS drop outs and people with no social skills should not be allowed to conduct vital security.

Not to mention they seem to be unable to deal with a threat should it arise, but they are creating negative public sentiment that will blow back in any administrations face.

Not like they care, but the people who will have to clean up the mess the TSA is making might.

Why half ass train people to fill uniforms, when we have plenty of well trained people looking for employment already.


reply posted on 13-10-2012 @ 03:51 AM by Zaphod58
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The FAA oversaw the implementation of all procedures, and oversaw all equipment at the checkpoints. The airlines were responsible for the purchase of said equipment. The FAA was responsible for random testing of the checkpoints, failure of any test resulted in a $10,000 fine to the company. They were ultimately in charge, even though the airlines paid for everything, and choose what equipment was bought, etc. I'm not misremembering anything, I worked closely with both the airlines and the FAA for years.
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