I have come to the conclusion that we need to make technology work for us. Maybe its time for us to, by default, have our own spy cameras recording our every move and transmit the result over the internet to a our own cloud storage. We can delete almost all of it within 24hrs BUT every now and then we will have a recording to f-up all the jobsworths and mini hitlers out there.

This will only be necessary for a short while until all the a-holes in authority are behind bars or in a new job where they can do no harm. The authorities will know that "we the people" can switch on our self preservation surveillance technology at any time.

How would any cop behave if they knew they could be recorded have no idea where the camera's are and that any images are instantly stored thousands of miles away.

there is no longer a sense of community in the 5 boroughs, and a large part of it has to do with what's happening inside the NYPD. i've been driving around this city for a while now, lived here most of my life, and can tell you all that it has become the most disconnected, nerve wrecking city i've ever been to. it's gotten to a point where i was being pulled over just for having a certain model of car that i happen to have.

RealSpoke, those videos you put up are too accurate. they no longer want the cooperation of their community. they want to intimidate, control and separate us from them. of course, the police officers don't really "want" this, rather they are being told to do so by their superiors. either way though, if it's tyrannical, maybe they should either do their job or find a new one, eh?

also, they are now EVERYWHERE. that 4.6 billion jp morgan and chase pumped into our police department really eradicated any reason for the police to have any kind of courtesy, respect or professionalism left. they're being bought out just like our politicians and representatives.

i wonder how many stop and frisks are happening in manhattan and the upper east side.

how would cnn and the media handle that situation if cops where randomly stopping jews, frisking them and threatening to break their arms.

how would mayor bloomberg respond to all of his jewish donors and backers if that were happening.

he'll never know because i can guarantee there are no stop and frisks in certain neighbourhoods designated by mayor bloomberg.

or italian neighbourhoods for that matter. do you think these cops have the balls to go to little italy, where on any day of the week you could see a group of ten "suspicious" guys in leather jackets and track suits standing outside a coffee shop and do a stop and frisk.

this is a racist policy targeting black kids who pose little threat. trayvon martin syndrome.

they would never stop a group of hard looking gangbangers because they'll most likely get shot or get into a gun battle.

then the whole stop and frisk policy would be questioned and how it could have all been avoided by respecting the 4th amendment.

the policy would be beneficial if the cops had balls and actually targeted known criminals.

Cop: 'Because you're a f'n mutt.'

Does the word 'mutt' mean something in NYC that it doesn't in the rest of the world? That's racist, cut and dry. Nothing like just coming out and saying it.

Too many cops in this world.

Mexicans in Arizona have been living like this for a few years now...and they have to carry their identificatikn papers everywhere they go or else they will get detained until they can prove their identity.

If it isn't happening to whitey then ATS does not care. It's sad but true

Originally posted by Monger
Cop: 'Because you're a f'n mutt.'

Does the word 'mutt' mean something in NYC that it doesn't in the rest of the world? That's racist, cut and dry. Nothing like just coming out and saying it.

Too many cops in this world.

monger, the meaning stays the same. it's purely racist. if you were a regular in new york city, this kind of phrase coming from a cop would be like the sun shining - it happens every day.

Uh Oh.... (Puts on Kevlar) I'm gonna get it on this one so I'll just think ahead.

Okay, the stop and frisk is crappy....but....This was being done all over Southern California clear back into and all through the 1980's. Heck, we just called it "ID Checks" back then and I think some of the cops did too, informally. Formally, they're called FI's or Field Investigations in most places. I don't know about New York. That's a whole different world as I saw from a truck over the years. They are WRONG......but also Common...and the fact almost no one knows they happen routinely, every day leads to my next point....


I don't know a thing about who this kid is or what his background may be. Stop and Frisk is one thing, but it's that personal touch and attention he gets too. It would appear, very personal and individual. Now the kid sure as heck isn't going to tell anyone if he's sitting as a suspect on..say a sex offense, or a killing. Who knows?

I mention the possibility because I've heard cops talk about this, outside of the random side the thread is also talking about. Individual attention can be just as simple as, he got off or they can't get him on something they figure he absolutely did do and it's got them pissed enough to try and bait him into doing something stupid. Anything....would be my take on the mindset.

Could be rogue cops or just burn out cases getting off on screwing with a neighborhood teen.....or the teen could be someone the neighborhood would be quite happy to see go, soonest. Do we know either way for sure?

(One other point which may matter and I'm not seeing anyone mention.... I heard the term Mutt used a lot growing up around cops. It's interchangeable with suspect, perp, con, etc etc etc...just for context and not necessarily any slur beyond that..)

Keep in mind that most trends start on the coasts, and sweep inwards to an urban/suburban city near you. This is a battle that needs to be won now before it becomes commonplace everywhere. If you know you're going to be frisked - I know you have a smart phone - download the secret recording app that makes it look like your phone is on standby (locked) and record your day. Thousands of these friskees need to be coming out about this. Everyday people with nothing to hide needs to drop a "Wikileaks" type bomb on them. Hell, come out with their badge numbers too and we'll get to see who turns on who.

Originally posted by RealSpoke


Why don't they pay attention to the criminals on wall street? If they started frisking them daily, I'd like to see how long the policy would last....

edit on 10-10-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

The day some of those suits got frisked would be a funny one indeed. I'd like to see how fast those gucci loafers can run from the cops because they know they have a gram of c*** in their pocket