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Something's Smoking in Shamokin: A Real Conspiracy in a small city.

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posted on Oct, 9 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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First episode of "Something's Smoking in Shamokin" starting to expose corruption in my home town of Shamokin, PA. Beginning is how things came about portrayed by actual individuals involved and then it goes into actual footage. Coming episodes will indulge deeper into the story of the "Iron Fist". A local group of five families that have controlled my community since the 1950's keeping out economic development to further their economic and political control. This is as real as it gets people. I ask you to watch through the first 15 mins showing how things developed and then continue to watch the actual footage as the corrupt start showing their true colors.


www.youtube.com...


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posted on Oct, 9 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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OK I watched the first 25 mins...what is your involvement with this story. Is this your video?

Des



posted on Oct, 9 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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now that everyone in the world is being stopped for trying to spread good. what are we to do?



posted on Oct, 9 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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Dear logicalthinking,

S&F, it was certainly interesting.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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No it is not my video. I have lived in this city my entire life. There are, like I said, a certain group of families who control the economy through business and owning residential properties. These people have been in charge since the 1950's. They do not allow economic growth in my city to remain in power. These men came into my town to help the community rebuild itself and they are getting harassed by police, the city council, the local news paper, receiving death threats, vandalism, the list goes on. There are a couple local authorities that are helping these guys because they want to see the town get better. When these families first came about they used mob tactics to keep people scared and they have stayed in charge ever since. This city is hurting badly and we need as much attention brought to this as possible. Thank you for your comment.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Thank you so much. I can't give away details but I will keep posting the videos to this post as they are released. Things are going to get crazy. The man in the video that lives in this town has had to get security with him to be protected due to death threats and harassment caused by these certain people.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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I'm about half way through, really interesting, I can't believe this #$%!!

I'm very happy to see these guys fighting back, it's inspiring. Do they ever mention the "famiiles" that are behind it by name?
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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 04:32 PM
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They right now are releasing shows every other week. They are gaining interest from networks right now. I've talked with these two men personally on a few occasions. The families who in charge are known. They have ties as far as a State Senator, would love to give his name but they are still trying to confirm it %100. They do not release anything without verifying things. So I have to wait. They are going after the chief of police in the next episode at the same time tying everything into place with these families. Im telling you this is crazy. The chief is trying to cover his tracks as we speak. Like I said would love to give more details with having inside info but I can't give too much information without jeopardizing what these men are trying to do. It is horrible in this town, it really is and there are good people here who are afraid of what will happen if they fight back. I ask you to share this on your facebook pages, everywhere, try to get us as much exposure as you can so we can stop these people. They have a lot of control in this area and we are going to need all the help we can get. And I know this seems like its straight out of a book but it is true and like I said we need some help.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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This is a great answer to the goverments creeping corruption problems!
At every level! We the people need to use You tube and ofther forums to illustrate more of this thing.
The old boy network exists in countless townships and certain families have ruled for generations....
Put their mugs on facebook and their antics become comically farcial as they are so used to bullying the people they bring hemselves close to the criminal dock with every blustery counterattack!
We need to film these guys wherever they are and put them all on you tube!



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by logicalthinkingkeeping out economic development to further their economic and political control.

Depending on the situation this can be a good thing.
The last thing I would want in my town is another Mcdonalds, walmart
or any casino.

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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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You have to realize that these employers pay people minimum wage. They maybe have a total of 20 employees. Coming from a city where these and literally one or two others control the entire economy and political structure is frightening when there are a few thousand ppl. Let the community decide on where they spend their money. This is not about a ma and pa shop staying in business. It is about absolute control of a community.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Dear logicalthinking,

Perhaps you could post the presentation that was made to the City Council so that we can have a better idea of what the two were proposing.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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I saw the facebook page called "Coal region community against somethings smokin in shamoken"

who are these people? They have a utube of this older white haired dude kind of blathering and not saying anything really pertinent, just thanking people, etc.

Very strange goings-on. They also have tons of comments against the Binsack guy. They make him out to be a super tool, btw, he had been put away for fraud or something, what made this out of town investor want to jump into business with him? There seems to be two sides and one is mostly personal attacks on Binsack, from here anyway, I have no idea what's really happening up there.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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If you look on the youtube page there is a video where he explains his past. Had some bad dealings going on, got into a car accident where he lost his business. The anti page is full of ppl who are making false accusations. The ones that are telling the truth this man has admitted his guilt on certain things. If you look at what he was charged with a lot of things were thrown out. One of the people that prosecuted him is now in prison for molesting his own child. In PA you have to understand that there are certain groups of individuals of have mass control of things. As I stated earlier there is a Senator connected to these happenings within my community. Does Scott have a perfect past? No. Has he hidden this? Absolutely not. You have to look past the individuals and look at these facts. They purposed a prospectus, which I will upload asap or give a link, to a community that is failing. Their ideas and stated facts within are ingenious at least. They proposed to fix a community while donating to charities etc. Despite the past of the consultant, the man investing has a great reputation. No criminal background and is at a high level in the construction industry. They were turned down despite the fact that this would create great economic prosperity within the community. Why were they turned down? There are a group of five families locally known as the "Iron Fist". Five fingers together ='s a fist. They have blocked business from coming in to control the amount of money they make compared to the low and pathetic wages they pay their employees. Why do they get a way with this? Because these families control the the politicians and police in the city. This same group of families control the residential part of the community. Buying properties, fraudulently raising value and selling to citizens who think this is the norm, also buying and renting slum houses, black mold, no heat, no electric and ppl accepting this because this is the norm created by these individuals and accepted because of intimidation from police, city and other ppl. This is happening, do not look at the individuals but ask yourself why a proposal that could strengthen a community be turned down.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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If you look on the youtube page there is a video where he explains his past. Had some bad dealings going on, got into a car accident where he lost his business. The anti page is full of ppl who are making false accusations. The ones that are telling the truth this man has admitted his guilt on certain things. If you look at what he was charged with a lot of things were thrown out. One of the people that prosecuted him is now in prison for molesting his own child. In PA you have to understand that there are certain groups of individuals of have mass control of things. As I stated earlier there is a Senator connected to these happenings within my community. Does Scott have a perfect past? No. Has he hidden this? Absolutely not. You have to look past the individuals and look at these facts. They purposed a prospectus, which I will upload asap or give a link, to a community that is failing. Their ideas and stated facts within are ingenious at least. They proposed to fix a community while donating to charities etc. Despite the past of the consultant, the man investing has a great reputation. No criminal background and is at a high level in the construction industry. They were turned down despite the fact that this would create great economic prosperity within the community. Why were they turned down? There are a group of five families locally known as the "Iron Fist". Five fingers together ='s a fist. They have blocked business from coming in to control the amount of money they make compared to the low and pathetic wages they pay their employees. Why do they get a way with this? Because these families control the the politicians and police in the city. This same group of families control the residential part of the community. Buying properties, fraudulently raising value and selling to citizens who think this is the norm, also buying and renting slum houses, black mold, no heat, no electric and ppl accepting this because this is the norm created by these individuals and accepted because of intimidation from police, city and other ppl. This is happening, do not look at the individuals but ask yourself why a proposal that could strengthen a community be turned down.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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I hear you, just pointing out the personal attacks on the guy seem pretty over the top. Like why isn't anybody addressing the issue of the proposal, etc. They are just calling names and rounding everybody up to to community service projects. It's confusing to an outsider.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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The video was a little tough to get through, especially the drawn out sequences of amateurish reenactments, but I wanted to see it in its entirety because I am familiar with Shamokin and have wondered myself about what it would take to revitalize it. At the end I was curious about the details in the prospectus that they kept mentioning, but unfortunately they were never addressed.

I also thought that there had to be more to the story than two philanthropic guys looking to effect a positive change to this community by investing in quality rental housing. Remember that the principal partner in the venture had never even been to Shamokin according to the video. I also found it odd when he briefly mentioned in the video that he wanted to bring in a mixed martial arts/wrestling event that was turned down.

After a little digging I learned that a major component to their prospectus is having the city allow them to create and operate "adult arcades" which are essentially small casinos. If approved, they propose to share the wealth with the city by paying a 10% tax on proceeds. Evidently Pennsylvania State officials are not convinced that this is even legal.

While I'm sure that there is a lot of palm greasing and corruption going on at the City level in Shamokin, I'm not sure that these guys are all that they claim to be. Why not be upfront about the "adult arcade" issue? What other components of their prospectus are dubious and less than philanthropic?



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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Here is the link to the full revitalization prospectus for anyone interested in checking it out.

Final Prospectus Revitalize Shamokin Coal Township



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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I think the "arcades" idea came from this area seeing major economic bumps from the cities that have invested in them. I have sat and spoken with Scott for hours and questioned him time and time again. His story does not change. He admitted mistakes in the past and what he has done to improve on things. These two men have donated a lot of money to help the homeless, churches and flood victims. Scott has said to me, that yes he is a business man. They did come into this community to buy and fix up properties and bring in industry and of course they would make money off of it, thats how it goes. When they started seeing the corruption side of the city by them being hammered by the fist families they started asking questions to locals and realized that they are not the only ones to have this happen to them. This has been going on like I said since the 1950's.. They then came up with the idea to expose this.



posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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Got some more info tonight. Things are getting crazy. No word of a lie. I will bet my word with in the ATS community that this is going national.





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