Originally posted by seen2much
Calling on Jesus or whatever rligious tradition you believe sometimes works and sometimes does not.
Now that we have looked at several cases of demonic possession in the time of Jesus and how he handled various situations let us look at one more case showing what demons can do.
Let us go to Acts 19:13-16. “Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of [one] Sceva, a Jew, [and] chief of the priests, which did so.
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?” Here we see a mockery being made of the sons of Sceva. The demons are not in any way responding in the way the sons of Sceva expected them to.
“And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.” This is what can happen if you start messing around in something you are not ready for.
Look at this example closely. One man had an evil spirit and he overtook SEVEN of the sons of Sceva, ripped their clothes off of them and sent them out of the house naked and hurt. Now anyone knows that one normal man is not going to be able to take on 7 men at one time and send them out of a house in that condition. Only a demon could allow a person to have that kind of non human strength.
Notice that the sons of Sceva told the devils to come out “in the name of Jesus of whom Paul preaches”. These were not men who were on a “first name basis” with God, they were not followers of Jesus themselves and as a result were only copying what they had seen Paul do.
A demon is not something to be played with. Based on the examples shown here one can see that demons are real, have a great amount of power and have no respect for anyone. It is a strong and formidable enemy and before engaging in battle with one, it is necessary to make sure that you are where you need to be so you don’t end up like one of the sons of Sceva.
Psychic Alan Vaughan points out the following information:
"It is significant, however, that the greatest outcry against the use of Ouijas has come from the Spiritualists [and] not the parapsychologists. In England, Spiritualist groups are petitioning to ban the sale of Ouijas as toys for children, not because of vague dangers of ‘unhealthy effects on naive, suggestible persons’--but because they fear that the children will become possessed."
Psychic / spiritist Harold Sherman, president of ESP Research Associates Foundation in Little Rock, Arkansas, agrees: "The majority who have become involved with possessive and other entities came by this experience through the ouija board."
Noted psychic researchers Ed and Lorraine Warren refer to one instance where the Ouija board was used "as little more than a joke" – and yet it led to the house becoming "infested" with evil spirits. Noted occultist Manly P. Hall founder of the Philosophical Research Society is considered as one of the leading authorities on the occult in this century. In Horizon magazine for October-December 1944, pages 76-77 he recalls:
"During the last 20-5 years I have had considerable personal experience with persons who have complicated their lives through dabbling with the Ouija board. Out of every hundred such cases, at least 95 are worse off for the experience…. I know of broken homes, estranged families,and even suicides that can be traced directly to this source."
Ed and Lorraine Warren, whom I cited above, state in their book Graveyard that (pp. 137-38):
"Ouija boards are just as dangerous as drugs. They’re not to be played with… just as parents are responsible for other aspects of the children’s lives, they should take equal care to keep the tools of the devil from their children… especially in an error when satanic cults are on the rise.
Remember: Seances and Ouija boards and other occult paraphernalia are dangerous because evil spirits often disguise themselves as your loved ones and take over your life" (Edmond Gruss, The Ouija Board: A Doorway to the Occult)
You're obviously a competent writer. That leads me to believe you have some education and may be a college graduate. If you just graduated high school and can write like that I'm very impressed.
Now after graduation you went to the Big City, and there you failed, as you admitted. So what did you do? Go back to live with Mom and Dad at age 22 or 23. That had to be tough for you.
But it was also tough on your parents because they thought they had done their part, that you were emancipated on your own, and here you are back at home as an adult, depressed because of your failure, taking up space in their lives they thought they had for their own, and with what I suspect is some attitude.
From my perspective, you were simply going a little bit crazy at the time, having a "psychotic event." You sought help finally, were on some medication for a short while, and it appears you are cured.
You're supporting yourself and out of the house, and now all's well with the world.
So where you see demons, I see a guy who was under some pretty severe pressure and stress which caused physical reactions that you interpreted as demons. It's all in your worldview. Someone who did not believe in demons would take an entirely different approach to interpreting the exact same physical stimuli.
The overall result, though, is that you helped yourself and got yourself out of it. That's pretty cool. You did it. Congrats.
Originally posted by LoneCloudHopper2
I am merely looking for the truth and as you can see...
I believe it was a demon..
I experienced a demon and I witnessed demonic activity.
The truth is the important thing, whatever that may be.
Originally posted by jheherrin
Go find another shrink... Then find a medium of good reputation, Then find another one and get a second opinion.
"Visiting a psychic or spiritual medium will almost certainly bring demonic activity into your life."
Things that invite demonic spirits
"By studying the original Greek text we find that the use of drugs is mentioned four times in the New Testament. The Word ''sorcerers" in Rev. 21:8 and 22:15 and "sorceries" found in Rev.9:21 and 18:23 are all derived from the original Greek word "pharmakon". '
"We read in Rev. 22:15: "For without are dogs and sorcerers, and whore mongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
"Whatever "sorcery" is, it certainly keeps pretty bad company, doesn't it? Now we read in Rev. 18:23: "Thy merchants were the great men of the earth, for by thy sorceries were all nations delivered".
Strong's concordance lists the word "sorcery" as: #1—a drug i.e. a spell-giving potion #2—a druggist or pharmacist #3 — a poisoner.
"Isn't that amazing. A pharmacist today has the same Greek title that he had at the time the New Testament was written nearly 2000 years ago, and he is still doing the same thing — dealing in poisonous drugs!
"The Bible says that "sorcery", or the use of poisonous drugs, has deceived all nations. All nations practice sorcery through the use of drugs, but they are deceived into thinking it's right. If a person is deceived, he won't know he is deceived, now will he?
"When I first became aware of it, my reaction was to deny it. Surely the word must have changed meaning. I looked in Webster's 2nd Collegiate Dictionary published in 1980 under the word "pharmaceutical" and I could scarcely believe my eyes when the definition read: "pharmaceutical"—the practice of witchcraft or the use of poison.
Pharmakeia is a Greek word used in Galatians 5:20, Revelation 9:21, and 18:23. It is the word from which we get “pharmacy” and its derivatives. As we look at this word in the Scriptures, we realize that there is a much deeper meaning to it than merely “drugs.” In Galatians 5:20, it is translated “witchcraft” (KJV), and the occurrences in the book of Revelation are even more accurately translated “sorceries.” (The NKJV translates it in all three verses as “sorcery” or “sorceries.”)
In Aramaic, the word is harsuta—an extended form of the noun harse, consistently translated as “sorcery,” supporting the translation of pharmakeia into the same word. According to The American Heritage Dictionary, “sorcery” is defined as “the use of supernatural power over others through the assistance of evil spirits.”
Could it be that the use of psychotropic drugs (antidepressants) increases the availability for demons to infiltrate the human mind by opening up chemical doorways, or portals, and that this could result in demonic rule over the patient’s emotions and thought patterns? If this is true, which I believe it is in many cases, it is my opinion that the use of psychotropic drugs (antidepressants) may be a New Age practice of sorcery that has crept into society and is now encroaching upon the church.
Psychotropic Drugs: New Age Pharmakeia
If you really are looking for the truth, why so sensitive (pardon the pun) towards skeptisism about your demon attacks??
I have my reservations because your story doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me all the way around.
If it were myself, I would never jump to conclusions, and only fools believe 'gut feelings' can always be relied on without fail.
and only fools believe 'gut feelings' can always be relied on without fail.
There are lots of holes, as I already pointed out (researched demons, but didn't consider any sort of banishing/cleansing???
the psychiatric evaluation that doesn't sound right at all, especially for someone claiming to his shrink that he is being attacked by demons?
it's quite obvious that you never even bothered to look up the explanation about the ideomotor effect I gave you??
you want people of like mind to come in and tell you that you're right.
I could be wrong, of course, but I really think there's a good chance you seek out validation for your 'sensitivity' any chance you can get
and by your own words in this very thread, you obviously don't question your 'sensitivity' much at all, and that for me was the big, bright, flashing warning sign in your story, and why I have serious doubts that what you experienced was the real deal.
Want the truth? Go find another shrink and be completely straight with them about your experiences and get a second opinion.
Have them put you thru every test to make sure you don't have any sort of mental/physical conditions. Then find a medium of good reputation who has never heard of you and don't tell them jack # and see what they tell you. Then find another one and get a second opinion. Even then, unless their readings are so accurate it amazes you, take their readings with a grain of salt.
The facts are this: people who get into paranormal/supernatural/occult..etc, who already have pre-existing psychological conditions can draw all kinds of stuff to them, real and/or imagined. Don't write off shrinks or sceptics, and don't get all your truth from die-hards (especially the kooks) or you'll fall down a rabbit hole that noone wants to try and get out of.
Because a lot of people claim they want the truth, but they back away from anything that would negate whatever their personal beliefs are because it would tear them down and force them to look at themselves with some real honesty, and that's some scary # for people who have die-hard belief systems.