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Originally posted by detachedindividual
Originally posted by Rulkiewicz
reply to post by Wonderer2012
I think you're overlooking the fact that.... one second he's talking the political jargon... then he closes with "we take them out". In my opinion, he went from "Business man" to "Southern boy".
I would have laughed if I was in her position too.
Yep. I don't like any of those in power, I view them all as nothing more than self-serving hypocrites who would sell their own grandmothers for their own ego.
However, this video has CLEARLY been edited, and not very cleverly either.
Besides that poorly done cut and paste job, she is laughing at the man next to her, and she clearly states that attacking Iran would be like emboldening the regime and the opinions of Iran's supporters.
I think someone tried to make a propaganda video, and they failed miserably.
Originally posted by 00nunya00
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Wonderer2012
I’m NO FAN of this administration (to state it mildly) but I don’t see the point here. She was laughing because she’s the secretary of state and is being put in the position of having to answer that tough question. I don’t think she was making light of it….she seemed to just tow the party line…..at least that’s the way I saw it.
I don't know....I'm not seeing it. I guess I'm just used to their arrogance.
edit on 9-10-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Wow....wait a minute.....is that really you, Seabag? I.....actually.......agree with you! Is this 12.21.12? Lulz.
But seriously, exactly what he said. Anyone with a triple-digit IQ can understand that she's laughing because the dude before her set her up for a very tough follow-up to his warmongering. She was in an uncomfortable spot of needing to not appear weak, yet not a d-bag warmonger. The laugh was one of being uncomfortable, which is why everyone else laughed with her. Unless the OP thinks the entire German audience was a bunch of nutcase warmongers too......? Hard to say what the OP is thinking, it runs counter to common sense.
Originally posted by rtyfx
Let's look at this from a different perspective. Is it ever really appropriate to joke about going to war with another country, especially when your country has such an ugly track record of starting useless wars?
The clear answer is no.
No other country has ever joked about going to war. There is something very sick about all this.
Originally posted by queenannie38
Anyone interested in the entire discussion on Charlie Rose can view it on his website, here.
I am going to watch it now, so I don't know what bearing it might have on what I've already said, but I'm willing to keep an open mind and especially eager to get the whole thing rather than an out of context inflammatory 2 minute clip of the entire 60 minutes.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
It's a case of how you view what is said.
Yes, he puts her in an uncomfrotable situation.
But why is it uncomfrotable?
It is uncomfortable because the actual plan is exactly what he stated- 'Take them out', and Clinton of all people knows that! Hence the uncontrollable laugh because to them, it is common knowledge at some point America will tackle Iran militarily.
Originally posted by 00nunya00
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
It's a case of how you view what is said.
Yes, he puts her in an uncomfrotable situation.
But why is it uncomfrotable?
It is uncomfortable because the actual plan is exactly what he stated- 'Take them out', and Clinton of all people knows that! Hence the uncontrollable laugh because to them, it is common knowledge at some point America will tackle Iran militarily.
No, it's uncomfortable because he goes off on this "Iran is dangerous, we need to take them out" tangent, and then the interviewer is like "um, Secretary Clinton?" What does one say to that kind of lunacy? One can only laugh, especially when one is in the position of having to broadcast the intentions of an entire country.
I don't know if maybe you've got real, diagnosable issues with being able to understand and interpret non-verbal social cues and unspoken social vibes (like Asperger's or something, seriously, not trying to make a jab, just trying to make sense of why you're not getting this). But the rest of us understand why being left "hanging" like that, having to come up with some diplomatic and sensible reply to a bunch of warmongering, would be laughably uncomfortable. All I can say is, you might want to let this one go, because you're fighting a losing battle. No one else [very few, to be fair] is convinced like yourself that there's anything untoward about her laugh.
Originally posted by trysts
Well, I don't have a triple digit I.Q., but I know she couldn't contain her joy about a person being brutally murdered. She thinks it's amusing to talk about whether or not Iran will be attacked. She laughs very easily at the most serious of subjects. That's how it looks to me.
but I know
That's how it looks to me.
Originally posted by Bixxi3
reply to post by Wonderer2012
Did you even watch and listen to the video you posted? Clearly in context she was laughing at the comments the guy made about the obama admin. Everyone else laughed too.
Originally posted by 00nunya00
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
It's a case of how you view what is said.
No, it's uncomfortable because he goes off on this "Iran is dangerous, we need to take them out" tangent, and then the interviewer is like "um, Secretary Clinton?" What does one say to that kind of lunacy? One can only laugh, especially when one is in the position of having to broadcast the intentions of an entire country.
I don't know if maybe you've got real, diagnosable issues with being able to understand and interpret non-verbal social cues and unspoken social vibes (like Asperger's or something, seriously, not trying to make a jab, just trying to make sense of why you're not getting this). But the rest of us understand why being left "hanging" like that, having to come up with some diplomatic and sensible reply to a bunch of warmongering, would be laughably uncomfortable. All I can say is, you might want to let this one go, because you're fighting a losing battle. No one else [very few, to be fair] is convinced like yourself that there's anything untoward about her laugh.
Originally posted by 00nunya00
Originally posted by trysts
Well, I don't have a triple digit I.Q., but I know she couldn't contain her joy about a person being brutally murdered. She thinks it's amusing to talk about whether or not Iran will be attacked. She laughs very easily at the most serious of subjects. That's how it looks to me.
Ah, see, there's the classic mistake exemplified very nicely in this reply.
but I know
No, you don't.
That's how it looks to me.
There you go. That's more accurate. It may look that way to you, but not to 99.999% of everyone else. You may feel real confident that you "know" what she's thinking and what her motivations are, but if that were true (or even possible, seeing as you've never met her and certainly never been privy to her private thoughts and information), you would have a very lucrative position in either the US Military Black Ops program, or you would make a lot of money from political consulting. Neither of which is true, obviously.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Wonderer2012
I’m NO FAN of this administration (to state it mildly) but I don’t see the point here. She was laughing because she’s the secretary of state and is being put in the position of having to answer that tough question. I don’t think she was making light of it….she seemed to just tow the party line…..at least that’s the way I saw it.
I don't know....I'm not seeing it. I guess I'm just used to their arrogance.
edit on 9-10-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Baker finishes his statement with "We should take them out".
The above is the fact.
Originally posted by samsamm9
The U.S government is sick and this woman has some serious mental issues.
To laugh like she does while talking about a serious subject such as a military attack is just psychopathic.
Laughing at Qaddafi's death and now this, Wow !
It is true, the U.S government as become the Nazi of the 21st Century.
And I'm not surprised by whoever defends her, after all Hitler was elected by his people.
Any ATS member that are not American, defending this witch ?