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Originally posted by mademyself1984
The United States isn't "defending itself"...the sooner you accept that, the sooner you can stop bitching.
Originally posted by mideast
Originally posted by mademyself1984
The United States isn't "defending itself"...the sooner you accept that, the sooner you can stop bitching.
SO , what's going on ?
Nobody is "blinded by patriotism". Soldiers are constantly called "sheep", accused of being "brainwashed" and "blind". Explain to me, please, how you, the media, or anyone else for that matter...could possibly be more "enlightened" about either the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, than the soldiers who fought them. The vast majority of people who criticize the wars, have never served a day in the military, and have no ground to stand on when being critical of soldiers. I am a subject matter expert. You, my friend...are not.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by mademyself1984
Nobody is "blinded by patriotism". Soldiers are constantly called "sheep", accused of being "brainwashed" and "blind". Explain to me, please, how you, the media, or anyone else for that matter...could possibly be more "enlightened" about either the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, than the soldiers who fought them. The vast majority of people who criticize the wars, have never served a day in the military, and have no ground to stand on when being critical of soldiers. I am a subject matter expert. You, my friend...are not.
Subject matter expert? When you wear that label on your avatar with the approval of the moderators of this forum, I will believe you.
At this point in time, America need defend itself against no one and nothing. I don't see "God" raining fire on nations because they cursed his name - why should we poke our noses into countries that are none of our business? We're greedy, pure and simple. And because of all of our business investments overseas, we are forced to follow through and stick our rifles up the posteriors of every person who looks at us wrong, because we know full well that if any of the countries we currently occupy did that because they don't like what WE are doing on our own soil, they would get their butts kicked to next Tuesday. Don't pass Go, don't collect $200. Have a nice day sir, and don't you forget it.
We could easily withdraw everything, close our borders, become self-sufficient, and we'd be the Land of Reclusivity. And it would work. We have enough people, technology, and geniuses to make it work. But we don't want to, because we can't stand the thought of "Oh, it might be nice to have what THEY have," and we stick our noses in it. And then, when we put our investments in countries we know very well will get in trouble, we have to defend our assets and interfere in wars that aren't our own.
What would happen if we just let a war play out until it arrived on our doorstep? I mean, those countries we have debts to couldn't collect from us if their lives depended on it. We'd blow them to God's doorstep before they could say, "Oh crap."
So why do we need such an aggressive military? Why do we need to make our brute force so pronounced, so obvious? Why do we need to beat our chest and roar like a mountain man claiming his mate? Why are we so primitive despite our technology and resources?
No, we have not served in the military. That's why we can see the matter clearly and you can't. You can go your own way, but I sure as hell won't consider a bullet in the head my first solution to a problem.
I'm sorry...but being a moderator has nothing to do with being a subject matter expert.
Spending three years in Iraq, nearly 10 years in the United States Army, and counting...do make me a subject matter expert. I've been there. I've seen what happens there. I've seen what we are doing there, and it's not all doom and gloom like you want to believe. Again, either read my posts in this thread, or quit asking the same question over and over again. It is clear you either a.) are not reading my responses in full, or b.) you are not receiving the answer you want, so you are going to continue talking in circles.
The people questioning who we are protecting ourselves from are refusing to consider the possibility that perhaps our country and it's soldiers are more than willing to put our lives on hold to lend a hand to others. Again. Selfless Service.
Form your opinions of me, the United States Military, and all of the soldiers that represent it. The fact is we are all normal people, just like you.
The fact of the matter however, is that having not ever served yourself, having not ever been to either Iraq or Afghanistan yourself, having not ever volunteered to spend 3 years in a war zone, in order to improve the quality of life for complete strangers, three thousand miles away from your own family, yourself, you cannot possibly know what you are talking about.
Who's to stop them if they decide to do their own thing, regardless of war code?
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by mideast
I'm talking real life, not video games.
Originally posted by RecentlyAwaken
... simply because people like you don't understand what believing in something truly means.