Top neurosurgeon 'spent six days in heaven' during a coma, page 3


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reply posted on 8-10-2012 @ 11:53 PM by milkyway12
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Awesome. I can't wait to read it. I hope it explains the science that he understood before hand, and explains his new idea after the experience. Which will most likely be the entire book; will make good argumentative study material.
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reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 12:28 AM by DarknStormy
reply to post by CaptainBeno



If he seen it, why did he come back? It couldn't be that bad up there, could it? I call bullsh!t


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 12:35 AM by sk0rpi0n
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The fact that there was no brain activity for 6 days... is interesting to me.

If there is a natural explanation for this, I would think a neurosurgeon would be the first to know.


When it comes to things like this... even a brain surgeon would be discounted by people who believe consciousness arises from the material brain.


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reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 12:39 AM by DarknStormy
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Sorry, when this dude come around, he would of had enough time to think up a story. It would be interesting to find out when he actually mentioned his experience after coming out of the coma. Was it the first thing he spoke about? Was it a couple of days after when he re-gathered his thoughts a bit? Did he just make it up a week or so later? Is he doing it to make a few extra bucks on his book?
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reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 12:42 AM by boncho
Originally posted by milkyway12
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post by boncho



Awesome. I can't wait to read it. I hope it explains the science that he understood before hand, and explains his new idea after the experience. Which will most likely be the entire book; will make good argumentative study material.
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Or a good revenue stream....


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 12:56 AM by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by DarknStormy




Sorry, when this dude come around, he would of had enough time to think up a story. It would be interesting to find out when he actually mentioned his experience after coming out of the coma. Was it the first thing he spoke about? Was it a couple of days after when he re-gathered his thoughts a bit? Did he just make it up a week or so later? Is he doing it to make a few extra bucks on his book?


I can understand if he was some over-zealous christian.

The thing is, he is a man of science, that too a neurosurgeon. If it makes sense to take the words of scientific people more seriously than the words of religious people... then go all the way and accept his account of what he experienced regardless of how it stands with your point of view.

As for making a "few extra bucks" off a book.... I don't buy it. I'm guessing neurosurgeons get paid a LOT.... or he could have just written a book on neurosurgery.

About the other questions you asked, lets just wait for the book.


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 01:59 AM by radioboffin
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He's about to publish a book. It's all about money. They want you to buy it!


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 02:31 AM by litterbaux
reply to post by Agit8dChop


Originally posted by Agit8dChop
... when my PC blue screens i can quite clearly see the blue screen, but there's no HDD activity happening!


Using your metaphor, the brain is the HDD and the RAM is the device displaying the BSOD.

This is just a shot in the dark but using your own example, there might be parts of our existance completely independent of our brains.

Maybe we also have a BIOS or RAM. If RAM was like conciousness, once the power goes out it resets. Like death. Who knows, interesting metaphor.


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 02:53 AM by ABNARTY
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Awesome way to put that all.

I have no proof either way of NDE but I wonder why some are so strongly against it? Some say it is because we are afraid to die. There is nothing after we die. Zero. I say: what is so scary about that? Flick the off switch and go to sleep. Big deal.

As a person of faith, I do believe there is something afterwards. Now that is scary stuff



reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 03:36 AM by AQuestion
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Dear ABNARTY,

I cannot worry about what others think about NDEs. I have no more understanding about what it is like to be in Africa than a non-believer has to understands what an NDE is like. They can think anything they want; but, it is just that, their imagination. They imagine that they don't exist, that is the definition of insanity. I like it.


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 04:11 AM by Panic2k11
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Anyhow, in a dream, you can live a week in a few minutes before waking up


Time dilation (and compression) can also be induced with hypnosis. There was a paper some time ago about Chinese scientists working in perfecting this with addition of simple triggers as a way to increase problem solving capabilities.

Considering that time does in fact seem not to exist and be interconnected to space, and we are still arguing what space is I agree with the view expressed by some on the thread that consciousness (in its broader terms) experimentation can be a short path to really interesting discoveries, it reminds me some interesting experiences done with architects and physicist IIRC with '___'. A multitude of drugs and the creative minds have always been connected.

This is not a pro-drug stance (even if I do not object to increased liberalization of natural drugs, with the exception of opium).


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 04:22 AM by kudegras
reply to post by alienreality



Absolutely true his physical mind was doing nothing as the machine that goes "ping "said so.
So how do you account for the memories, may be proof for a true out of body experience by his soul.
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