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Originally posted by derfreebie
reply to post by crankyoldman
If there is only my contribution of one star toward this tirade
over a period of almost three hours, we surely are in trouble
as a culture. Cranky, that was magnificent and well done!
I lied to myself for years, and the final nail in MY personal
coffin was asking the government for help with a personal
problem. What the government did was help itself quite
unlawfully to the better half of my working years; and a
sizeably larger percentage of the wages.
For at least one the psyop is over. Thanks again, and I
would be overjoyed to send this to my friends with your
by-line and permission if I may. This could jar even the
most hypnotic of We the People awake.
The 1215 charter required King John of England to proclaim certain liberties and accept that his will was not arbitrary, for example by explicitly accepting that no "freeman" (in the sense of non-serf) could be punished except through the law of the land, a right which is still in existence today.
You have no lawful right, mandate, or privilege to tell a man, doing no harm, who was born in your geographical region, to leave his homeland. However, you are completely within YOUR rights to tell him to get the f*** out of your silly little Imaginary Navy game. However again, it appears that he has stopped playing that game already. Too bad for you, as it seems you really want to flex that jingoism/conformity muscle.
Originally posted by ReptileSkinShoes
plus , if you have an accident you need to pay up yourself , no insurance means YOU yourself pay a lump sum to the "victim". Dodgey grounds if you ask me ........ he`s also recinded his birth certifacte or something , this man is an absolute idiot .
If you`re willing to go to this extent i would like to say to you , as a british citizen , and on behalf of all british citizens .... get the f*** out ---->
However, if the travelling is to
be done in/on a mechanically propelled vehicle on a public road, the vehicle must be
registered and licensed.
the Road Traffic Act 1988
Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994
Originally posted by ReptileSkinShoes
plus , if you have an accident you need to pay up yourself , no insurance means YOU yourself pay a lump sum to the "victim". Dodgey grounds if you ask me ........ he`s also recinded his birth certifacte or something , this man is an absolute idiot .
If you`re willing to go to this extent i would like to say to you , as a british citizen , and on behalf of all british citizens .... get the f*** out ---->
Originally posted by sueloujo
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
I was beginning to wonder when someone would speak some sense on this thread. Thank you..you put into words my views totally.
Originally posted by lacrimoniousfinale
Originally posted by sueloujo
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
I was beginning to wonder when someone would speak some sense on this thread. Thank you..you put into words my views totally.
10 stars out of 10 wouldn't have been enough. It was possibly the best post I have ever seen on ATS. I couldn't have worded a response any better (than Hongkongphooey did) if I tried.
Originally posted by charles1952
After the first, "hello, we are processing your request," paragraph, the letter says :
I acknowledge that the common law right to travel still exists. However, if the travelling is to be done in/on a mechanically propelled vehicle on a public road, the vehicle must be registered and licensed.
The Freeman movement isn't the worst nuisance in the world, but it is in the top ten.
Yet I am scolded like a child for not agreeing with people who want anarchy and hide behind the words freedom?
Claiming its ok to drive without any registration, MOT, Tax, Insurance is OK as long as you have your own insignia (like a coat of arms?) is ridiculous, isn't it? This is the 21st Century not 1066.
Responses that as long as you take responsibility for yourself, its ok are so laughable, stating that children take joyrides anyway, so its ok to let them drive and drunks drive anyway, miss the entire point! IT IS AGAINST THE LAW and those caught will be punished by the law. There are good reasons we have driving laws and that is for safety!
I don't like many laws that are introduced to benefit large corporations but I will agree with sensible laws that protect the public.
100% Some of the most annoying and ill-informed people I've ever had the displeasure of running into. Threads like this are really all about spreading ignorance.
The law compels no one to do anything which is useless or impossible.
The laws serve the vigilant, not those who sleep upon their rights.
Relief is not given to such as sleep on their rights.
The law sustains the watchful.
Those awake, not those asleep, the laws assist. [1 Timothy 1:9]
Legal remedies are for the active and vigilant.
To investigate [inquire into] is the way to know what things are truly lawful. [2 Timothy 2:15]
Those who do not preserve the law of the land, they justly incur the awesome and indelible brand of infamy.
It has been said, with much truth, "Where the law ends, tyranny begins."
Originally posted by mee30
reply to post by Hongkongphooey
Yet I am scolded like a child for not agreeing with people who want anarchy and hide behind the words freedom?
You are arguing as though you are a child. You merely say that you assure us we are wrong, yet you provide nothing to support your statement! I'm sorry but your "assurance" means nothing to me? Try actually debating the points and we could get somewhere! You BTW were the one trowing around insults and such. So how about you act like an adult and then we can have an adult debate on the matter.
Who the hell is hiding being an advocate of anarchy? I am a loud and proud anarchist! Do you know what anarchy is? Oh you think you do don't you! Murder, rape, destruction, chaos etc etc... WRONG... That is what you have been brainwashed with I'm sorry to tell you. Anarchy simply means the lack of RULERS not rules! And listen I do not begrudge you having a ruler! If you want to be a subject or a slave and be told how you should spend your money and live your life then I'm cool with that. But why the need to drag me along with you? Why can't you afford me the same respect?
Seriously mate your eyes are wide shut! You really need to have another look at some things! I know you are probably best intentioned but what you advocate is more and more tyranny! You defend the tyrants and their arbitrary rules! We are supposed to be ruled by consent here! Well I do not consent! I am an adult and I can behave like one all on my own! I do not need a nanny state to protect me. You might and that is YOUR prerogative, just leave me to mine.
Claiming its ok to drive without any registration, MOT, Tax, Insurance is OK as long as you have your own insignia (like a coat of arms?) is ridiculous, isn't it? This is the 21st Century not 1066.
Why is it? It is acting very honorably! It is saying that this is me, if I do something I will be responsible! I fail to see what the date has to do with a symbol of recognition? Oh and the DVLA sure seemed to recognize it as the coppers found his details through it!
Again no logic or reasoning! Just assertions! "this is ridiculous" "you are wrong" "I am right" These all mean absolutely ZERO.
Responses that as long as you take responsibility for yourself, its ok are so laughable, stating that children take joyrides anyway, so its ok to let them drive and drunks drive anyway, miss the entire point! IT IS AGAINST THE LAW and those caught will be punished by the law. There are good reasons we have driving laws and that is for safety!
It is laughable to take responsibility for your own actions? Again just assertions with ZERO logic or evidence!
Oh now you resort to straight out lies! Now we are getting somewhere... Nowhere have I said nor has anyone said that it is okay to let children drive. You sir are a liar! Glad you showed that to everyone. What I actually said was that children are the responsibility to look after their children! If they let their child drive and he/she caused an accident then the parents would be responsible! And held accountable. You raised the point that we need licenses and rules or kids could drive and kill people! My point was that we have the rules now and still kids drive! The rules you love do NOT stop children driving! Do you understand this very very basic point?
I don't like many laws that are introduced to benefit large corporations but I will agree with sensible laws that protect the public.
The rules do NOT protect the public! They are not a prevention, they are a punishment! You don't seem to grasp that.
Honestly fella I don't mind you having whatever opinion you like. But at least try to put your point across with some logic and reason! Not assertions and lies...
Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by FireballStorm
The Officer must have wanted to call up the Ambulance service and get this guy off to Hospital!!