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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by StraightBananas
Its not something that can be debunked, or even really explained well, for that matter. Some see the codes and not only see them, but are pushed, prodded, and pulled, poked with a stick, carried over someones shoulder, some might even call it called, to be more aware of things and to develop recognition. For some it will actually be deciphering complex pictographs, and psi interpretations, others it's astral travel, some its like ATS, simply being more aware of the way the world is, and what some elites seem to be planning. That is also knowledge. For some it is being called to study up and recognize all of this, but given alternative information on what some of the beliefs some of the mystery school has, and so having alternative truths, but seeing how they interpret.
How on earth can you prove, explain even, or debunk this?
Mankind is poised midway between the gods and the beasts.
Knowledge has three degrees-opinion, science, illumination. The means or instrument of the first is sense; of the second, dialectic; of the third, intuition.
Society is well governed when its people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law.
When the pharaoh died and was buried in the tomb as a mummy, his astrologer, numerologist, slaves, artists, and even his wives were all put to death along with him. And once the passage over the River Styx had been launched, no one was allowed to influence this journey–each burial chamber was to be “hidden for all time.”
The only exception to this rule of death was the architect, who would have both hands removed so he could never repeat the design. It was then arranged that he too would have a far shorter life. Such was the tremendous emphasis on the spiritually driven need for secrecy in the death room.
Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
nice post, and in fact true, and many people and societies have come up with numerous words to describe things they dont understand/cant prove but believe in. such as the word god, many cultures believe in it, yet no one can prove it, or show any evidence of it. does it mean it is or is not there, only time will tell on that one, same with illuminati, just because people dont know the real name of the group, doesnt mean there isnt a large group of wealthy bankers/zionist jews trying to make it a reality or trying to make the "bible stories" come true so a new temple will be built and cause ww3.
just look at the type of laws being passed, control of nations economy, power, food, manufacturing under control of fema in national emergency? indefinate detentions signed by our own president? illegal wire tapping for filming cops/public servants. fema camps around our country and numerous other countries and even admitted to by officials, (so i guess thats finnally officialy out of the bag), 6 agencies buying up 3.5 billion rounds of "cop killer" bullets, 3 agencies dont even carry fire arms, weather service?, really the f ing weather service needs cop killer bullets? ROFL REALLY!!!!!! government websites posting images and plans of drones with rubber bullet modifications, and knock out gas tanks added to them
this freaking country will be locked down by sky net in less than ten years. terminator/1984 is comming true.
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Lemmingrad
Hmmm..... you think so. Have you ever had people write to you, or contact you, out of the blue, usually on fine details or points, and giving some places to look for more more info or balance? When the teacher is needed, the teacher arrives, its synchronicity. The true knowledge seekers are not really initiates, and yet they can see and pushed to do so. As to the mystery schools, I'm not sure they are the illuminati, though some who are more benevolent in them might be, there are alot of paths I've been told: www.rosicrucian.org...
I have had this term explained to me as those outside any fold. Freeform truth seekers, some who are within, and some who would never go near, some of the folds.
An example of the elite maintaining strict control over information. History is fairly replete with examples of this and I will include more as this thread progresses.
Concurrently, several studies were conducted that revealed a profound ignorance of historical matters among American students. According to "The Nation's Report Card 2001: U.S. History" (click here for the test's framework), more than one-half of high school seniors failed to demonstrate a "basic" understanding of their nation's history. As can be seen in the graph below, use of that supposed educational godsend, the computer, did not improve matters--in fact, scores generally declined with increasing use! In Diane Ravitch and Chester Finn's 1987 report "What Do Our 17-Year Olds Know?: A Report on the First National Assessment of History and Literature," it was found that the answer was little: One out of five students thought Watergate occurred before 1900 and only one-third could place the Civil War within the correct half-century. A 1993 Roper survey of American high school students (n=506) and adults (n=992) found that 38 percent of adults and 53 percent of high school students did not even know the meaning of the term Holocaust. Instances of collective amnesia appear not to be confined to this country: A 1977 study of over 2,000 West Germans aged 14 to 16 revealed that nearly half knew little about the activities of the Third Reich.
Whoever controls the past controls the future. Whoever controls the present controls the past.
Originally posted by Hefficide
Folks. Please don't feed the troll. And please note my specific use of the singular.
Pretend that we're having a conversation in a room with a loud television on. We can still achieve discussion no matter how annoying the background sounds are.
Originally posted by Lemmingrad
reply to post by Hefficide
That is very nice, but it does nothing to prove or corroborate your premise, which was the theory that the powers back then created the Illuminati to discredit the pursuit of knowledge in general.
The premise was not about how the elites control information.