The Search for the Ocean's Super Predator, page 2


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reply posted on 8-10-2012 @ 05:29 PM by Crakeur
reply to post by seagull



big fish (mammals) eat smaller fish. If you're reeling in a small fish, and a larger predator is in the area, you might wind up hooking that larger fish. I have a video, somewhere, of my wife pulling in a 4 foot long fish in indonesia (some kind of mackerel I think) and, after a nice long fight she suddenly gets pulled hard and then she had to be held onto by the crew as something massive was now on the line. After a few minutes of struggle, the line gave and my wife pulled up a little more than half the fish. The crew started running around the boat, getting the gear stowed. When I asked what the problem was they point into the water and gigantic tiger shark was swimming alongside the boat. The shark was about the same size as the boat.

We left in a hurry.


I've caught striped bass with small fluke on the line.

bluefish the same way

Shark while reeling in a bluefish etc


Big fish eats smaller fish, plain and simple.

Killer whales are highly intelligent so, it's easy to assume, they have some basic understanding of the "caught" fish and how to get what they want without getting caught.

Dolphin eat the same thing as tuna and bill fish and, yet, nobody every hooks them. Matter of fact, dolphin will lead fishermen to their prey. I saw this first hand. Followed a small pod that was, clearly, guiding us. No sooner did they go deep than we hooked the first marlin. A friend of mine had the same experience only he was led to tuna.

Killer whales and dolphin are smart mammals living in a world of less bright fish.


reply posted on 8-10-2012 @ 10:03 PM by seagull
reply to post by Pressthebutton



I've read that, too, somewhere a few years ago. A case of reverse evolution. Going back to the ocean...

Some of the observed behaviour would support that. The fact that they're at the top of the food chain, and well fed, the intelligence will keep growing, too. In a few million years, barring interference, what are they going to be like?


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 01:15 AM by reject
reply to post by Chadwickus



when I read the title and the opening lines, I thought to myself, "Orcas kill those things and even toy with them."

sure enough, its a killer whale. They are really smart and know to turn sharks on their backs which puts them in some kind of trance for a while so they can finish them off.

I also heard killer whales are actually dolphins


reply posted on 9-10-2012 @ 12:02 PM by CalebRight14
Originally posted by Pressthebutton
If I'm not mistaken killer whales are actually wolf like creatures that have evolved into what they are today. They didn't start off being aquatic. Quite interesting


LOL, that's why they're called wolves of the sea right? Never mind that we gave them that name, and named wolves too. Their behavior and name have nothing to do with where they came from. They hunt the way they do because they are social and intelligent.

It's really quite simple Great Whites average about 14-17 feet, weigh about 1600-2400 pounds (females being larger than Males) and have no bone structure. Even Large Great whites top out at around 20 feet and 5000 pounds.
Orcas are closer to 20-26 feet and weigh 8800-1300 pounds (males being larger than females), they also have a bone structure, and yes that matters.

Orcas are larger, smarter, faster, more maneuverable and just plain outclass Great whites in nearly every category that would matter in a life or death struggle.


Edit: The reason the sharks vanished after the California incident mentioned earlier is believed to be because sharks release a scent upon their death that kind of acts like a warning to other sharks that something has just killed one of their own. It may be species specific, but not fully understood. Discovery did a documentary about it. They are trying to study it to manufacture it as a shark repellent and it seemed to work well in the documentary.
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reply posted on 13-10-2012 @ 05:16 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by OKThunder



Definitelykiller whales.

Possibly a new species too. at least the ones coming into warmer waters off the south west corner of Australia.

This last happened about 20 years ago and they're trying to find what similarities in conditions there are between then and now.
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