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"How did we get the short end of the stick" [Africans place in religion]

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posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 10:28 AM
I thought Jesus was black, whats the issue? Being serious

posted on Oct, 14 2012 @ 08:10 PM

TextI thought Jesus was black, whats the issue? Being serious

There are some black people that insist that Jesus was a black man and in fact that Moses was also a black man. The black people who are taught this are themselves trying to separate from the mainstream European teachings as well as Judaic teachings. According to the KJV bible, Moses was admonished for crossing the racial line as well as crossing the theological line of the Hebrew people when he married an Ethiopian woman.

. Num 12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

This leads me to believe that Moses, being a Hebrew, crossed the culture line and was rebuked for doing so. That would tell me that he was not black. Although Moses was not black, tradition tells a story of young Moses after he fled Egypt.

Being a young man of about twenty, Moses fell out of the grace of Pharaoh and fled to Midian. About this time the king of Cush [Kinkos] prepared for war against the Syrians and while away was betrayed by his countrymen. Not allowed to return to his city, Kinkos laid siege and during this first year of siege is when Moses happened upon the King. Kinko's siege lasted nine years and young Moses gained favor with the king for those nine years. The great King took ill and died leaving the army without leadership. The officers of Kinko elected Moses as the King bringing him great riches of gold and silver. Immediately Moses retook the city, assembled thirty thousand men and defeated Syria and the East. He then was given Kinko's widow as a wife. The marriage was never consummated because she was a descendant of Canaan. Moses ruled a full forty years as King of Cush. As King Kinko's son matured and the people wanted the son to be King they approached Moses with this problem. Moses agreed that the son was the rightful heir and left the Cu#es with great wealth from the entire nation. From here he went to Midian where he spent ten years in prison by the decree of Jethro.

Now this tradition tells us (if true) that in this era of history, the racial barriers were not as they are today. Granted that some did have racial prejudices but it is difficult to determine whether it was actual race or religious factors involved. Reading two or three thousand year old literature in comparison to our present day culture is not clear in many respects. It is written in the KJV bible that Isaac forbid Esau to marry a Canaanite or even associate with them but many scholars believe this was due to the Canaanites worshiped Ba'al among other gods. The Canaanites were regarded as a black race.

As you dig into traditional beliefs, you can then understand that people today are just as prejudiced as at any time in history and it is my belief that it will always be that way. I am not Jewish and it bothers me not a bit to have the belief of a Jewish Messiah. If the Messiah was black it would matter nothing to the salvation message.

posted on Oct, 17 2012 @ 01:57 PM
in the new testament blacks were refered to as ethiopians. i believe that Mary magdaline, Jesus' wife, was so described. also 'bar jesus', the son of jesus is described as being a black using another term that i will not repeat here.

the jews persecute all the men created by God on the 6th day, such as yourselves. the decendants of adam/eve/lucifer are created by some other gods. Moses describes this particular set of gods as he and she and they and them ... your basic space aliens.

they didn't like those 'black maddona' paintings much either.

posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 08:07 PM
reply to post by Dnepropetrovsk

You dont know me but Id bet you would love to live a life like mine.

posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 08:11 PM
reply to post by RedRebel5

Do you view the Jews as your oppressor? Just wondering because this seems to be the feelings of a large number of African Americans. Looking forward to your response.

posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 08:23 PM
reply to post by Sparky63

No. I do not view the Jews as my oppressors. That's what through me off. Who did he mean by our "oppressors?" When i first heard the term I thought he was referencing whites. But maybe he did have a deeper meaning. Maybe that is what he meant.

posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 08:37 PM
reply to post by RedRebel5

Maybe you could provide the link to the actual video you watched. I'm sure someone here can figure out exactly who he meant by the term, "oppressors".

posted on Oct, 18 2012 @ 08:47 PM

Originally posted by RedRebel5
A particular video, it speaks on the Jews and how they are the "chosen people." It goes on to say how God chose the Jews and blessed them with there own land. And how God would oppose anyone who stood against "his people."
This prompted my wife to turn to me and ask "How did we get the short end of the stick?" I was baffled by her question, because I found myself wondering the same thing. Were did we stand in the bible. If I'm correct, we are descendants of Ham, which in turn bought about Egypt. But why? Why the plagues, why punish us? The other day I stumbled across a wise man. He asked me "why do I worship my oppressors God?" I still dont understand what he meant.
WHats your view on Africans place in history? Whats your view on Jews being the "chosen people." What did he mean by I "worship my oppressors God?"

The Old Testament refers more to the "chosen" ones. Then look what happened. The New Testament teaches us that God has a plan for ALL through Jesus. The 144,000 chosen Jews of Revelation are to be virgins.

I might have to double check this but King Solomon had an heir with Makeda (Queen of Sheba) and that was where the Ethiopia Jews came from.

The oppressor statement... just someone spreading their bitterness. Unless it personally resonates with you I'd let it go.

I think it's great to discuss openly a variety of views on religion as long as there is minimum of name calling. That is what usually happens here.
I've only really started reading the bible more in the last couple of years. Better late than never.

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