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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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reply to post by AnarchysAngel
 


Are you a drop out,
or did you receive a public education same as SS,
a tax collected from those that receive no benefit?




posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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They talk like social security matters to me. As far as I'm concerned it's the money I am robbed of every payday. NOTHING MORE! Let me opt out, because I'm sick of paying for other people's way.


You CAN opt out.

There are flights leaving to China every day.

Take one. Were sick of you being sick and feeling robbed.

Opt out.

Move to China. They have a much better retirement system.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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It isn't our world. It will not be anyone else's world until the voting power swings to the younger generations. Any group of young people that attempt to speak their mind, are shot down and their credability removed. I feel like the boot has been dropped on my generation. I guess in your day you probably felt the same.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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You mean you *weren't* there when they held the meeting to make that decision, and you didn't vote against it?
Oh, right...



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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For those who are under the false impression of what SS is it is not a retirement fund, the average check is 1000 bucks a month 12k a year.


And the average of a 401k after it has been decimated? 0 bucks a month/ 0k a year.

I'll take the devil I know, over the devil I don't.

Unless they pass a law giving a minimum guaranteed rate of return.....might go for that.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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reply to post by ErEhWoN
 
Better yet, why don't all of you lover of socialism move to Greece or Italy, or Spain, or another socialist country and leave America as it was supposed to be? You can take the federal reserve with you when you go.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Some how, some way, I payed for your eduction.
Indirect or direct, but it appears,
I will not benefit from your eduction,
that I paid for.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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I wonder how much the young millionaires that have been leaving our country have paid into SS? Everyone assumes they're just unpatriotic d-bags. Maybe they left for a good reason? Maybe we should all leave and let you guys figure it out.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by AnarchysAngel
"You pay into that son"

I'm tired of paying for the retirement of baby boomers. My generation will never see that money. Half of you that are collecting it don't even need it. We won't retire until we're 70, according to the experts. Stop taking it. If it's being taken with no reliable plan to give it back, to finance our retirement, then stop taking it. It's unfair taxation. We may be able to get by with privatized retirement plans, but that doesn't make it right.

Stop beating a dead horse, and admit you messed up what was a nice idea.


First I been paying into it for the last 35 years...I don't want it and would have much rather had my money in my retirement fund....so don't start with I don't need it...I paid for it as crappy as it is...hehe

But you are right in there are better ways than the way it is done.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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I told you get rid of SS,
get rid of taxes for public education.
If I could have saved the money,
I spend on public education,
I would have a retirement plan by now.
It is time to sacrifice public eduction and seniors,
if we are ever going to survive as a nation.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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I'm not benefitting from my public education much either! My private education got me a job that started at 23,000 a year though. A hefty loan over my head too. God bless America! Land of the debt and home of the bi-partisan anger.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:56 PM
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Seriously??? They are supposed to only be getting their own money back, not our money with a 50% interest rate.

The system sucks....why not give those of us under 55 the option to get our contributions back with 6% interest and stop taking it out of our checks?

The people in their 70 and older are taking out way more than they ever put in and nothing will be left for those that made the highest contributions. That's why it is a typical pyramid scheme.

It is NOT selfish to want to be able to have control of your own money.....SS deduction is MY money for ME.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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Wanna know where that 401k is invested?

Same place those SS funds are.

The devil you know is the devil you want personally I'd rather not have to beg for money I paid in to.
edit on 7-10-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
All I can take from this post is that you want the right to be selfish.

No wonder society's in the #ter when the younger folks don't want to pay to keep their grandparents off of the streets.


I always wonder what does it take to not be selfish? If a person spends their whole life doing nothing but the bare minimum (where they are physically and mentally able)are they selfish too?

I have maxed out my SS a long time ago, I pay 30k plus a year in Fed taxes, I give to charity more than many make...at what point am I still selfish, or the OP for not wanting a program they never tend to use, but are forced to pay in to it.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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Education is a scheme,
just like SS.
The students at the bottom pay for those at the top.
SS, the workers at the bottom pay for those at the top.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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That's fine, you can express your opinion, but since you are choosing to live in our society which is representative republic, you don't have the right to just decide yourself what you want to do.

I fully support SS, so in effect, our opinions cancel each other out.

SS isn't going anywhere, sorry.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by AnarchysAngel
reply to post by Rudy2shoes
 


Find one of those people giving their check to charity, and tell them you need that charity badly.

See if they'll give it to you, or if they want their deduction from the deal.
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Hang on, lemme get it see if I am close.

You live somewhere that even the poor people can afford to give away an entire pension cheque and still be well off enough to pay the bills, buy food, rent, etc. ?

Sounds like you live in some strange bizarro land full of homeless people that demand satisfaction from their waiters. Where is this place? Rich people drive honda civics and only have AM radios.. Hobos are lining up to give away their pension cheques to charity. And the rich are told to eat cake!

Or.. is it just one person?

Is it even a real person? Or are you just making things up to rant about how much you hate unemployed people?

lol?

I am not sure...
edit on 7-10-2012 by winofiend because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by AnarchysAngel
I'm not benefitting from my public education much either! My private education got me a job that started at 23,000 a year though. A hefty loan over my head too. God bless America! Land of the debt and home of the bi-partisan anger.



Why did you spend all that time, effort and money on such a crappy degree? At what point do we finally blame ourselves for our own situation? For me... my successes or failures are my own doing.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by AnarchysAngel
reply to post by Rudy2shoes
 


I'm not benefitting from my public education much either! My private education got me a job that started at 23,000 a year though. A hefty loan over my head too. God bless America! Land of the debt and home of the bi-partisan anger.


It's not up to the public education system to provide you with a good job. You sound like you have a very entitlement attitude about all this.

It is up to you to use that public education to get a good job. I guarantee you that there are some highly successful people that went to the exact same school as you did. So you have no excuse, they made it because they wanted to.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 10:05 PM
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I have been waiting for someone like you my whole life,
a Tax Protester.

As a collective we should all get to voice our views.

I would have ignored you if you wanted to go throw tea in the bay,
but you make sense, just look at all the other unjust taxes.






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