"You pay into that son"

I'm tired of paying for the retirement of baby boomers. My generation will never see that money. Half of you that are collecting it don't even need it. We won't retire until we're 70, according to the experts. Stop taking it. If it's being taken with no reliable plan to give it back, to finance our retirement, then stop taking it. It's unfair taxation. We may be able to get by with privatized retirement plans, but that doesn't make it right.

Stop beating a dead horse, and admit you messed up what was a nice idea.

Why should they? Your money, earned with time taken out of your limited life span doesn't belong to you. Your life belongs to the state. Get used to it. /sarcasm

I'm just plain fed up with this stuff. They talk like social security matters to me. As far as I'm concerned it's the money I am robbed of every payday. NOTHING MORE! Let me opt out, because I'm sick of paying for other people's way. I'll gladly take care of the sick and the weak. I'm not going to give my hard earned money to the people that just give it to charity and get a tax deduction. I can do that with my money on my own thank you very much.

All I can take from this post is that you want the right to be selfish.

No wonder society's in the #ter when the younger folks don't want to pay to keep their grandparents off of the streets.

My feelings of ss are well known for those who dont:

Should have never been created in the first place:
Ponzi scheme of first in first out leaving others holding the bag.

Should be privatized and let people make their own decisions, and investments.

But.

The power that SS gives politicians they will never end it or give that power up.

For those who are under the false impression of what SS is it is not a retirement fund, the average check is 1000 bucks a month 12k a year.

A pittance paid in a pittance paid out.

Originally posted by AnarchysAngel
"You pay into that son"

I'm tired of paying for the retirement of baby boomers. My generation will never see that money. Half of you that are collecting it don't even need it. We won't retire until we're 70, according to the experts. Stop taking it. If it's being taken with no reliable plan to give it back, to finance our retirement, then stop taking it. It's unfair taxation. We may be able to get by with privatized retirement plans, but that doesn't make it right.

Stop beating a dead horse, and admit you messed up what was a nice idea.

I have no problem with what you are saying,
I can understand why you want to starve me out,
before I collect what I payed in,
and you need the money for your young wars.

The good news is the real estate bubble has collapsed,
and land is cheap,
so can I get the burial plot I wanted,
instead of taking the cremation route,
with no record embedded in stone,
of the early death you wish for me?

Social Insecurity is more like it, but try to spin the walking papers strategy to people that have statements and I mean years of them that show how much of their money they have put into and their possible benefit, I am talking 44 or 50 thousand or more over some years, and are not even anywhere near retirement, do you think people would love to just donate that much money out of their hard earned money if they stopped the program?

They could stop Social security and the SSI or the portion the government adds to it there would be nothing wrong with that entitlement portion, but there is the element of the money you have given the government in return for their promise or their plan, if they stop social security I guarantee you there will be a stampede of people with their statements demanding their portion of their hard earned money back that the government has taken.

We all know that actuaries or other statisticians figure out the possible lifespan of a person, give the data to the government who then keep upping the retirement age so they know there is a considerable amount of people that will not see their hard earned money that they put into it nor will the government pay a refund to you or surviving heirs if you collect none of the entitlement portion.

The portion that you pay into it from your paycheck is your money they took and have no fair way to give it back if you either die or do not collect it is one of the biggest scams ever because at some point I heard that the cost of living component had the formula manipulated back in the 90's so checks are not what they really should be, yet they want to cut it or make it seem as though they are giving you all of this money when you collect it.

And in return,
I no longer want to pay school taxes,
or government taxes for grants and research.
After all I am old and children gone, why fund them,
when they just want to prematurely put me in the ground.

I will not even go into SS taxes and how it funds the young.
I am willing to let you cut both our throats.

Amish do not participate in SS, yet they llive full, long lives WITH THE FAMILY. As the generations expand they move to a smaller and smaller apartment-like dwelling attached to, or very close to, the main family house reserved for the oldest male child once married.

We've been programmed that American family means your own house and property away from parents and grandparents. Social security replaces inner family responsibility and unity through the generations.

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Why should they? Your money, earned with time taken out of your limited life span doesn't belong to you. Your life belongs to the state. Get used to it. /sarcasm

It may be sarcasm, but it's the absolute truth.

That is the fact. Wages are nothing more than chains. Try living without your chains. If you are free you can.

But it appears we cannot.

Make the common man feel as if he is responsible for the unemployed and he will sort the situation out in time. While the real bludger sits rather chuffed that his scheme is working so flawlessly.