Questions for Americans: What is REALLY Going on?

reply to post by britelite1971


it turns into a conspiracy when one is unable to fact check.

Especially something so public, like 911. Look what kind of conspiracies that created.

Same with UFOss, Kennedy-Lincoln..and the Foreign Born Obama conspiracies.

All stuff that could be put to rest if the govt didnt lie about everything.

reply to post by britelite1971


1) might be focused on collapsing the dollar. The introducing a new world wide currency. You can trade your money for the new currency but only at like 30% of your former value. So 1 dollar buys you .30 cents in the new currency.

2) It's leaked out that the club of rome and councel of 300 have stated that there goal is to destablize the you-es

3) the g00v bought like over 1billion bullets recently. Everyone is claiming that it's for martial law.

4) if there was an emp attack over north america it would wipe out the power and society would shut down and most people would die. And or, a epedemic virus where people start dropping like flies.

The avatar of r2d246 is very cool. That out of the way, what is really going on is complete and utter collapse of the world finance and banking system. That single fact is the reason for a lot of what has already been described in the posts above, such as the news of the large ammunition purchase by the US government department FEMA.

We have had recessions before, they are regular occurrences. We have had depressions before, but we have never had one like that we are currently in - since 2008. Consider, the world economy is totally intertwined. The US like the rest of the world waits for the Chinese economy to kick start the global one, because only the Chinese economy at this point can. And yet, the US constrains China, for good reason. The US no way wants to lose the priviliges that go with having the world reserve currency. China has already convinced a number of countries to do business in the renminbei (China's currency), Germany, Russia, Brazil and many others all trade with China using that currency. This is significant, why? because before all world trade was done using the US dollar, giving the US a supreme advantage.

If the US were to lose its dollar world currency status the outcome for Americans would be absolutely devastating. A good article on the subject HERE

America once used foriegn diplomacy to solve international issues, now it uses its military muscle, simply because it has no other solution. Its military is the strongest by far in the world. You need to keep in mind ever since World War 2 the USA has been the very apex of world capitalism. It has been if you like 'the gold standard'. At least it was until the Bretton Woods system fixing the value of the dollar to gold was removed during Tricky Dicks presidency in the 1970's. The reason they did away with that system was there were already by then too many dollars floating around (okay, created by the banking system) in the world than there was gold in Fort Knox. They decided to let the dollar find its own value.

Now we are where we are. Capitalism has gone from being sick to becoming a zombie, staggering around without a brain of its own, to all intents and purposes deader than a dead dingo's donger. But staggering onwards still.

The world cannot reverse out of the situation, it is systematic, and total distruction from within.

Since 2008 we have seen government after government inacting austerity measures designed to make the workers of the world pay for the gambling of the financial and ruling elites. In the US, Wall Street gets millions of tax payers money, while the tax payers are taxed ever more, either directly or through slash and burn measures on social services. Companies react to higher costs by shedding workers. Without work people have less to spend, the economy gets worse, and so on.

In the 1980's companies were the targets of corporate raiders, now its entire nations (like Greece) that get raided. And yes people are correct, soon the financial elites will focus on America, after the easier targets, like Spain, and Italy and Portugal fall. Maybe they will hit Japan before America, or maybe it will be right across the world at the same time.

Before that though, there is going to be massive unrest, just about everywhere. The Chinese are rioting now.

So it isn't as if you have to look any further than the economic catastrophic slow train wreak we are all in. Of course, nibiru might show up at the end of the year, the Sun may explode, they might micro chip you while you sleep in your bed. I suggest though, that a lot of these conspiracy theories on ATS and across the net are likely to be the products of psyops. Governments do not want you looking at the economy, and what their controllers, the financial elites, the ruling class if you will, are up to. They want you confused, frightened, running around like those woolly things out there in the country side, bunched up together against the fence and baaing plaintively - and then accepting their new Charles Dickens like working conditions. $2 an hour if you are lucky.

There is what is really going on.

Here is something that is going on.

reply to post by britelite1971


I don't know but I know I'm scared!

Another member mentioned fallout from the presidential election which imo is going to be a good day to hit the polls early then go home and hide.

Maybe nothing will happen.....maybe tptb have created so much hype over the 2012 thing just to see how us little people would react. Just kinda like a test run.

The massive amount of ammo being purchased is seriously concerning, and very intriguing. It's stuff like this that makes me think it's not real. Why would it be posted all over the internet if it was some secret government conspiracy. Why wouldn't they deny it? Or try to put a better spin on it like they got half off the second million rounds?(If they have denied it please link me up.)

It is a fun time to be alive, if we really are alive.

Maybe we're all dead and in hell or some time loop and for all of eternity we will relive the days from Sept. 11, 2001 to Dec. 21, 2012. It just resets after the 2012 disaster whatever that is. Maybe that's what we're all feeling that somehow we know we've been here before and our subconscious is trying to wake our conscience mind.

But more than likely I'm just crazy and don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

reply to post by Tallone


Starred, your a scary deep thinking type, you should post more often, I think your input would be very useful, if you used your pwers of observation more often.

It is evident to me that the fat cats are not getting as fat as that want. They are trying to keep everyone afraid and addicted to the current way of business.

Fear in numbers equals power for the few.

The American government will not give up it's power. The one's that are in charge truly believe that they are what's right for this country and they believe that they can counter any and all threats to the current way of doing things.

It will be different though.

When you number is called, come and get your essential provisions and peomply return back to your residence. If you fail to comply, your "freedoms" will be revoked and your family cannot see you any longer. For you will be detained until judgement of your value to society. Until then enjoy your bread and water with a view behind razor wire and pacing guards.

This is what lj01 believes it will be like. Us, the little people do not have enough firepower or will power to make a sweeping change that is needed. It will not be like the movies, all glorified, hell I bet that one half of the country wouldn't know what the other half is doing because all travel and communications will be controlled by the one's who think they know best.


Just my two cents.

Originally posted by windlass34
Does anybody consider an option that a disclosure of some kind is being forced upon the elite of this world? Something that is coming soon and they have to deal with it? Just a speculation...

edit on 7-10-2012 by windlass34 because: (no reason given)

Yes! To me for whatever reason it feels like the election is just a big distraction to get the publics attention away from something else. Regardless of what side of the political coin one is on, I think it's fair to say that it's not like Obama to completely blow a debate. It almost seemed to me that he knew it wasn't of importance and that there was something he wanted to tell us but couldn't. Did anyone else get that feeling? My fear.....is that we won't be given disclosure until we finally figure things out for ourselves at the last minute. It will be too late by then. Maybe it is too late already?

reply to post by r2d246


All good points! One thing in particular though isn't it kind of disturbing that they can't even use hollow point bullets in war zones, yet the government is purchasing them to use against the American people in the event of an uprising? Really!?! What will they do, shoot us down in the streets like Syria is doing to their people?

Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by britelite1971

 

Game theory plus social engineering plus media manipulation mixed into a psyop equals a histrionic and highly suggestible population who enter into a circular behavior of being trapped by information overload and, ironically, seek shelter from it in the new ( and most easily abused ) form of media.

Life shows us that there is bad.
The TV and radio news tells us that it's worse than we realized.
We panic.
We run online for distraction - only to find it's worse than we could possibly have imagined.

~Heff

edit on 10/7/12 by Hefficide because: (no reason given)

Oh yeah, I have to agree with you. Going online and researching it does make it worse than you ever imagined! A person could search for days online and never gain more knowledge but only become more paranoid. How do you decide what is real and true?

When it all comes down to it, what does it really matter anyway?
If there is some big conspiracy, what can we do? Stop it from happening? If something of that magnitude does happen in our country/world, all we can do is just accept it or not... fight the power right? LOL.
I used to research alot on this subject as well, and nearly went nuts with paranoia/fear. It's no way to live. If the SHTF, well we can do what we can to stay alive. But really, what will doing all this research do for us individually? Other that entertain us, distract us, make us paranoid? As a wise man once said, "Don't worry, Be Happy."... enjoy what life we have left is what I take from that. Just my humble opinion.

No one knows wtf is going on in this country OP, except those that believe what the tv says.
Best thing is to hope for better times but be ready for the bad.

I don't know what will happen and I highly doubt anyone here does, so I tend to be as open minded as possible.

Some people (the skeptics) tend to say that if you're too open minded your brain might fall out, but I don't care.

We live in a INFINITE universe, anyone who claims that something is not possible, is clearly living in a very comfortable bubble of lies and ignorance.


Sometimes, I wish I could/would see the world like this too, as a place where you are ignorant enough to not see that people suffer every day, that your needs are not the only thing that matters, where governments actually care for the people, where the "news" is honest and unbiased...

But then I realize; those people are the ones calling me/us "deluded" or crazy or whatever labels are associated with conspiracy theorists, while in reality, THEY are the deluded ones, THEY are the ones that have built this mock reality around them. We live in a world, imo, where the majority of people is actually deluded, and maybe, it has been like this for ages, I don't know. And the few who see this? They are the crazy ones

That's why it's so hard to tip the scales, but I think one day it'll tip either way, I only hope that something will assist people in the right direction, rather than them being lead to accept a new reality that is again built on lies. Not talking aliens or whatever, it could be as simple as a few good people infiltrating, taking over the mass media and turning it into something HONEST again, a cyber-rebellion without an agenda, if that's even possible.

I am personally very concerned about all the terror camps training here on OUR soil. Fox News just confirmed at least 13 camps here in the USA. These are just the ones that are confirmed. There are at least 35 suspected ones. They have a small group of police monitoring these camps but I doubt there's much they can do. Daniel Pearl was investigating this when he was abducted and killed. These camps aren't even on our terrorist list but some innocent Americans are?

I don't know about you guys but I think there is something troubling about Obama and the fact we really don't know much about him. I am not a birther but do we REALLY know where he came from? What about his radical ties in the past to Jeremiah Wright and others? What about the NDAA he passed under our noses?

Maybe all this ties in with the FEMA camps and a possible martial law happening this year?

Here is an article if you all are interested:

www.lifeandliberty.org...

reply to post by britelite1971


if we look back at our history and see the path we have been on and can understand why and how we got to where we are now, i think it is very clear to see where we are headed.

conspiracy theories and details about what may or may not happen, although we may learn a lot from them, are all just distractions, imo. you do not have to be "awake" or believe in any conspiracy theories to see what is actually happening, although some choose not to.

the question i have is, what will we do about it? will we continue to do nothing, to be dependent children living in fear of becoming victims of our worst nightmares, or will we choose to grow up, become truly independent and completely responsible of ourselves and of our lives?

This is part of whats going on. It is being made reality. Natural disasters aside.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by britelite1971

 

Game theory plus social engineering plus media manipulation mixed into a psyop equals a histrionic and highly suggestible population who enter into a circular behavior of being trapped by information overload and, ironically, seek shelter from it in the new ( and most easily abused ) form of media.

Life shows us that there is bad.
The TV and radio news tells us that it's worse than we realized.
We panic.
We run online for distraction - only to find it's worse than we could possibly have imagined.

~Heff

edit on 10/7/12 by Hefficide because: (no reason given)

I once heard a T.V. commentator say that the internet is the largest cesspool of information.....we must tread very carefully when visiting. I agree there is much psychological warfare going on in this country, and oh so subtle it appears to be. I used to think on the lines of natural disaster on earth or from space, but the only disaster I feel occuring is the economic downturn and WWIII on our horizon....we our digging our own graves while we preoccupy ourselves with a melting pot of A-1 American blather!

ok...everyone needs to take a chill pill...why?...this type of paranoia has been going on for decades. after world war 2, it was the threat of russian nuclear war, i remember school drills where i would get under my desk, and these were frequent. then, there was vietnam...we had to win to stop the entire western world from being taken over by chairman mao's communist china. then, there were the "red scare of communism" in cuba, central america, south america, all these were going to be "communist takeovers" and we would lose our freedom and democracy....the list goes on and on, with the public being pummeled with potential disaster after disaster.
and if you think now is bad...i remember in 1968...robert kennedy, martin luther king, were both killed, at the same time america and russia had thousands of hydrogen-bomb-ready missles aim at each other, while we had over 100,000 troops fighting in vietnam. so, let's try and put this into some sort of perspective, and just maybe you might start seeing that things might be getting a little better, and the world isn't going to end soon.

reply to post by britelite1971


I believe what is going on is people are changing, globally. It may be a type of evolution sped up by the internet. I believe the Middle East everyday person truly wants freedom but it will take a few more years before they get there. No matter who is president, the turmoil will continue there. The changes happening in the US is different. We really get to choose how we want to be governed. Irregardless, how people have maligned the vote process here in the US, it still works. Right now there are two prominent views. One side accuses of the other of wanting socialism and the other side accuses the other wanting old world fuedilism. The voters will have to make them come together in the middle. I know that people are a lot more informed now about our world than when I was in my 20's, 30's, 40's. I keep faith in that, increased knowledge.

reply to post by windlass34


That's what I've been thinking. They are not concerned about some world wide Armageddon, they're worried that more are waking up to the fact we're being enslaved and are planning for the backlash.
Or maybe we're all doomed.