I live in America and I can tell you, this will not happen. Even if it does people will still continue on, just like any other day. That's America!
They may pass gun laws but they will never stop women at a yard sale
Well...historically that's true.
But you are assuming that the police won't just come down and start tasing, clubbing, pepper spraying, and executing dogs with ruthless abandon if
they see any black market garage sales going on.
While it might seem absurd to think that this would ever happen... remember...we are now deploying the US military at college football games for no
apparent reason whatsoever.
In the digital world its already in swing, there trying to find ways to make you pay for the things you bought long ago, even in video-games its
getting silly. Now when you buy the game you buy only parts of the game, they are always coming up with new updates some even on the next day that
the game came out. All just to squeeze as much $$ from there costumers as they can. When everything goes digital this will be more prevalent,
especially if you can not get a hard copy of whatever you are buying as the stores don't sell them anymore.
But if you cant sell your old stuff or even things you no longer need, that is just getting into the beyond retarded department, and ya every
manufacturers will move ship so they can take advantage of this law. I do not see how it could work on certain things like cars or devices that you
bought, they could try to enforce it and over time people would tow the line for it. On new gadgets that come out I see how this can work and why
they would do it, but when that new gadget becomes old and is no longer in demand they would of been kind of killing themselves in that department.
But if anything in our consumer society its all about the newest and shiniest thing to come out, and that is were the money is. I am thinking they
would want to control it there in that phase, after that it becomes not as important and this law may actually hurt more then it helps.
But again it is ultimately just another way to keep there intellectual property rights to keep dishing in the $$ to them, but seeing that there really
is not in and of itself anything out there that is really original then it just really becomes about control and who has the most lawyers and more
lawmakers in there pockets basically about who can enforce themselves more, and really that is what it comes down to even with the consumers that buy
the items, that is its only yours as long as you can maintain it that way.
Kind of like the whole thing Apple has with Samsung were they sued them over intellectual property rights or some such, there was even a rumor that
they won and that Samsung paid them 1 billion dollars in nickels which they shipped in trucks to them. But it looks like that was false and the whole
case is still kind of going. Apple vs
Samsung 1 bill payd in nickels
Which is kind of retarded seeing as all there ideas came form somebody or something else ideas, it all basically just becomes who can enforce
themselves more, which again just means who has the most lawmakers or judges in there pockets, and basically who has the most lawyers. In fact that
is all that it ever was, even with things such as cars or the other things they sell, and if they can enforce the fact that they don't want you to
own your car but sort of lease to you, it be it through laws, or rules and regulations, or even through old fashion man power or private police,
well...Then they will do it.
I find the whole thing silly, and even in that smartphone case that apple has with Samsung, I do not own a smartphone as they put out to much noise.
But really there not all that different from each other, and from what I heard and seen from people that actually had both phones, one guy in
particular I work with used to be an apple guy till he bought a Samsung galaxy phone now he hates the iPhone, and judging from others and it seems in
the end its all just what label you like the most on your device... literally.
Or as this vid explains, its all just a brand. Intellectual property indeed.
Warning there are some potty words in the vid.
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I don't think a law like this is placed on the books with intent to enforce it in every instance possible. As you said, it wouldn't work, because
people would ignore it and it is just too widespread to police everyone who breaks the law.
Instead, I think this sort of law is put into effect and subsequently invoked in situations where the suspect is otherwise innocent and the arresting
officers can not identify any other criminal activity to substantiate an arrest, fine or temporary detention.
Not like they really needed another ridiculous law to use when it's found that no other laws have been broken... In some places it is still illegal
to dance! or play rock'n roll! They don't arrest everyone who dances or plays electric guitar, but they have the legal capability to do so, based on
the bogus laws.
*-Sorry if this has been mentioned somewhere between the 1st page and here, I'm at work and just wanted to put a post up-*
If you can't sell it, you don't own it. If you don't own it, it's not your property. If it's not your property, you can't be taxed on it.
Unfortunately these law makers don't concern themselves with logic.
Originally posted by fnpmitchreturns
If the guy was actually buying used text books from people who used them or did the guy have his relatives go to the tore and buy them new and then
jut send them to him to resell.
I understand both sides of this suit. I think the guy has crossed the line when new items are purchased in other countries and reshipped and exported
to be sold locality here in the USA. On the other hand he could be getting legit used books not recycled new purchases which is ok with me.....
I see the problem being not with the guy but with the overseas distributors who sold the books without an export license to prevent this type of
"commercial piracy" ........
I don't think this is any comparison to this and for example Ebay. However, I could this law being twisted by corporate America to create a
"rental-for-life" society so this is a dangerous precedent in the making.
What if the guy got his mum to go to the shop and buy new books. Then he bought them off his mum for the same price. That would mean they were
secondhand, even if they had been unopened.
It's just the same if anyone goes to any other person and buys an article and then sells it again to somebody else. It's called the free market
which we all participate in.
The corporation is just peed off cos he is selling their book for cheaper than they do. Why don't Wileys reduce the price of the book to the same for
everywhere. problem solved.
I understand what you are saying but he is using a loop hole left open by the distributor who sold the book in that country. I have no problem with it
if he was doing it with his own personals but he recruited people to go out and buy them so he could resell them here... for what? $1.2 million? Thats
big business not a some kid selling a few college text books. I see it a an import/export restriction problem
the right to resell your stuff will never be in jeopardy as long as the people with over 65 I.Q. understand that if they were to do this, just boycott
every damn product until they are all bankrupt, besides unless they think this country is made of completely of bankers, lawyers, and doctors they
will screw themselves in the end, because half the people that would buy their product would now be with out a job to even buy new toys, so unless its
going to move all the farm land to another country i really don't see the point, i don't know about most but i can certainly live with out
internet/smart phone, ps3, games...plenty plenty to do with out a plug stuck in a wall of course it involves things outside so most of the fat/obese
wont like those ideas
also i believe the underground black market type flea markets would pop up, could make many web site that mimic a craigslist, so really the only ones
caught there will be people going after that" to good to be true add" like "free gold" lol and many ways to word a description to make it seem like
its not a legit product, kind of like the reverse of people selling ripped off goods, you just say it "looks" like a sony walk man hehe scratch the
plastic names off the outside and take all labels off. really many ways to thwart this even in its first month of becoming a reality.
but sadly even if it did pass, there would still be droves of those idiots that wait in line over night to buy a phone that has auto tracking from FBI
installed right on it at purchase, because they are sad pathetic people with no real self worth so its filled with a phone, to screw it all up. then
of course cannot forget companies paying people to continue to wait in lines after it passes to make sure people see that "OTHERS STILL WAIT FOR OUR
AWESOME PRODUCT, SO SHOULD YOU!!' mentality , and paying people to write blogs and call in on radio stations, and cry that they need the new
phones/toys, so they wont be joining the boycott blah blah.
plus not to mention the very people making this law would most likely be the ones to help shoot it back down when they realize they can no longer
trade/sell their very precious antiques they have been saving for xyz years to turn a profit. not to mention art alone, allot of photos are mass
produced after the original, and many famous painters back in the day would hire droves of young painters to copy their work, both examples could be
considered "manufactured" so would not be able to sell/resell allot of the art work out there.
in the end this bill screws to many people from different facets of life so i highly doubt it would pass, and if it did , i would take a guess to say
one year max it would last.
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Originally posted by BlueAjah
People definitely have to speak up loudly about this.
Think of all of the poor college students who barely make it through college. They usually need to buy used texts on ebay or from fellow students.
They then need to resell their books after a course just to be able to afford the next course. College is already beyond the reach of most students.
If they need to only purchase new books, at the outrageous prices charged by publishers, some might never eat, or might not go to college at all. The
books for one semester can cost hundreds or thousands when purchased new.
I can attest to this, as I had been in this situation.
Even at the community college level, you wouldn't believe how much books cost, and I'm already in debt.
Are you kidding. If this did happen, companies would crop up immediately offering "yours to keep and do with as you please" and everyone would go to
them, and the others would all die. Ain't gonna happen. This thing is just about the basic case of buying a ton of books from some other country and
selling them here. The article just sensationalizes the "what if" aspect and everyone's biting.
No Companies wouldn't 'crop' up & do this, because if this bill becomes law-that would be illegal, and those Co.(s) would be closed down &
Look, our Gov't controls us, and they want control of our stuff too. If this causes a cashless system they will have us exactly and entirely where
they want us. Bartering underground won't be as easy as it seems, and certainly we won't be able to barter for everything that we might need.. but
even if we could it still stands to reason that - we shouldn't have to!
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