Spanish Police Beating Everyone: A Warning To America [and the world]

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posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 02:39 AM
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Woah... That song just makes me want to do what's right in this world. Its like I instantly change when I hear that song, and then I start crying because of how stupid I've been... how stupid WE'VE been... all this time.




posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 02:55 AM
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Are they trying to make us angry??? Cuz its working, I'm furious! Our freedom is being stolen from us and it seems no one givers a damn!



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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well not true.

You can still see people like legionaries salute his picture, and people with his portrait in their office.

Where I am from is full of traditional Francoist supporters....most of my city.The communists did terrible things to the population and chose which side we would be on for us. My family fought for Franco mostly with the exception of my uncle....who died after the civil war.

We were the fascists....things have changed here. You used to not be able to fly the republican flag, now it goes up in defiance of the Francoist national flag for everything like a soccer game to parade.


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posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 03:07 AM
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Thank you for the extra Information


But for somebody who claims to live in Spain and then claim that there was no revolution is ether lying or does not know what they are talking about.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by jcarpenter

Spanish police are just "following orders".



Yeah, that's what the Nazi's said too.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 04:07 AM
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This video made me so angry. Especially cops beating women, and men standing around doing nothing


How can a handful of cops control thousands of people?
Why doesnt anybody fight back?!

If this happens where I live, they gonna have to kill me, cause I won't stop fighting till I'm dead.
Goverments around the world need to be taught a lesson: You serve Us not the other way around.

From 5:25 to 5:35 the video made me smile though. Something about a violent piece of tihs (cop) getting kicked in the as$.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Since September 25th the masses of Spain, no longer being able to feed themselves or their families, have risen up against the oligarchy to protest further budget cuts and massive tax increases a situation so dire it threatens their very survival.

While the masses suffer those the poor are being robbed yet again to bail out the rich. The overlords have no sympathy for the less fortunate and instead of forcing the bankers to take the loses on their investments the ruling class remains disconnected from the reality of millions.



Austerity in Spain has reached boiling point and the people are rising up, this is a warning to the world- look at the police who are prepared to defend the corrupt government's controlled by the bankers.



As we have seen with the Occupy movement even nonviolent mass protests have been met with the authoritarian fist of the Oligarchy’s army of mercenaries so we can be rest assured when those numbers swell into the millions, as they have in Spain and several other European nations, the response the police state will be just as brutal.

Brace yourself America as our streets may soon resemble those in Spain where a rampantly brutal and out control police is acting swiftly to crush any popular resistance to Global cabal.





"WHAT IF?"
"WHAT IF?"
"WHAT IF?"

Why in the video does he keep saying "WHAT IF?". All those things have happened and are happening and will only get worse and worse from here on!!!! Mark my words. Look you can't appease a psychopath. Don't go to any protests unless you fully expect to get killed. If there wasn't a 2nd amendment everyone would be in FEMA camps already.
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posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by icepack
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whose fault is it ? the people, who gave the credits or the people, who took the credits ? (serious question)



The credit crisis spread because people banks in the US (non US banks as well) gave out bad credits, knowing they were bad creadits and then repackaged them and sold them off across the world, betting against the credits they ratified. I dont think the Spanish people had any influence on that.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by Merinda

Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by Wonderer2012
 

whose fault is it ? the people, who gave the credits or the people, who took the credits ? (serious question)



The credit crisis spread because people banks in the US (non US banks as well) gave out bad credits, knowing they were bad creadits and then repackaged them and sold them off across the world, betting against the credits they ratified. I dont think the Spanish people had any influence on that.


put very simply and very correct!

Sad sight to see yet it brings me hope for people around the world that are tired of government striping away rights banks gambling with peoples money and practicing out right corrupt behaviors.

To the people of Spain dont give up keep fighting you have the chance to be an example to the world that change is possible!

Hopefully these cops realize what they are doing to fellow citizens (crimes against humanity) and start fighting on the peoples side instead of doing the B**** work for the corrupt.

I could only hope Americans stand up like this, occupy was a start but we need to finish this!
We need change
we need to show these corrupt idiots that we will not tolerate such actions treat them like enemies of the state because they are!

Its sad that some drug lords help out there community with millions but our elite are greedy and selfish enough to bring an ENTIRE country to the brink of economic collapse.
and its not over
gas food taxes are going up
gold's price is being artificially kept down as with other precious metals
countries are calling for the end of the dollar as the global reserve
its going to get bad i just hope we all act soon before its to late.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. ... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion; what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." -- Thomas Jefferson



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by Wonderer2012
 

whose fault is it ? the people, who gave the credits or the people, who took the credits ? (serious question)



You hit the nail on the head there brother.

They stop trying and decide to live off of free money and then claim that governments are keeping people down by not giving them free money.

Why do drug dealers give a mark a free sample of their product? Because it's easy to prey on weak minds if you give them what they want.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by icepack
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whose fault is it ? the people, who gave the credits or the people, who took the credits ? (serious question)



Time to put the BLAME where it BELONGS ..... People there should RISE UP against their GOVERNMENT and make it CHANGE ! Sometimes, REVOLUTION is the only way to strike down TYRANNY !



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:03 AM
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This Is because only the very wealthy have firearms.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Trueman
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Of course spanish gov. is not the only bad one. That's obvious. But that is not the topic of this thread right?
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It just seems a little pointless to focus on one government when we are all heading in the same direction. That's why I pointed out that the US government is not really any different. We've presumably all seen the US police violence in New York (even though some seem to think that's fine, because they're a bunch of "commies" and "socialists" funny how in the USA the right to assembly depends on your political opinion), and we've seen a kid almost murdered by the riot police in Oakland, students sprayed with military grade chemical weapons, beatings, baton charges, mothers and children fired on with rubber bullets...

Even after all of this has been witnessed, people look on at what's happening in Spain and Greece as though it's removed from them. It's already happening in the US, people are just ignoring it, or they're making it political to justify it in their own minds. How many times have we seen people on here preaching that it's okay for Occupy protesters to face this kind of thug response, because they're "infiltrated" or they're "democrats"? It just seems ridiculous that so many Americans are in agreement when it comes to protesters in Spain being beaten by police, but in the US there's barely mention of it.

I also think this is how the US government will delay any real uprising. All they need to do is spread around that a protest group was "paid by *insert political group here*" and their support is halved, with plenty of people agreeing that they should be beaten into submission and silence - freedom and rights are a great thing, as long as people agree with you.

That is how politically divided the US is. All it takes is a mention of a political affiliation and anything goes, from removing their right to assemble to beating them with sticks.

If protest is going to work people need to understand that meeting a protest with violence is not uncommon, all governments do it. Their only weapon against protest is force, and they will do anything to make that happen. We know they send in plain clothes officers to create violence in order to justify their violent response, but they do this without realizing that they could indeed create a catalyst to grow a protest into a riot, and a riot into a revolution.

This is what is now happening in Spain, and it's what will happen everywhere else too. There will come a moment when the police cause violence that the wider public sees as unacceptable, this might be injury or death of a protester. But that moment will change the game completely.

In Spain, the anger is at such a level that no amount of government propaganda after the fact would prevent it from igniting what we've seen in the Arab Spring, with revolution being the result. But in the US, it could easily be dealt with because the media is in the pocket of the government, either through choice, through collusion or by simple laziness (relying on government statements and press releases instead of investigating). And the people are almost BEGGING to be lied to and told that it's "those commies" causing the problems.

My point is that Spain is just the beginning. The Spanish police and government do not know what they are doing when it comes to protest. Neither do our countries. They don't understand Human psychology - either how to control it with their own officers, or predict Human behavior in their people.

There will be more protests, and there will be a death or some other visible instance of extreme violence or unjust response (that could have been the train station footage the Spanish people watched with disgust), and that will lead the public into an uncontrollable rage, which will likely result in a revolution.

That is how it will happen in almost all countries, just as it has throughout the Arab world. That is why I raise the issue of the US being no better. This will happen in the US one day, probably regionally, and then nationally. It's going to happen in the UK too. And it will happen throughout Europe.

Incidentally, there are protests planned for the UK this coming weekend, and today the Chancellor George Osborne is stating more attacks on the social system to claw back money, while the rich are still getting richer. That shows how inept and out of touch government is. Goading people just days before a massive protest in London... Idiot rich boys who don't pay attention to their own nation, just the equally rich people who pay them off (sounds a lot like Romney, no?)

This shows how disconnected the UK government is, and others are no better.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by icepack
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whose fault is it ? the people, who gave the credits or the people, who took the credits ? (serious question)



It is always the evil rich (whoever they are), nobody every claims individual responsibility and everybody wants an entitlement.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by Merinda

Originally posted by icepack
reply to post by Wonderer2012
 

whose fault is it ? the people, who gave the credits or the people, who took the credits ? (serious question)



The credit crisis spread because people banks in the US (non US banks as well) gave out bad credits, knowing they were bad creadits and then repackaged them and sold them off across the world, betting against the credits they ratified. I dont think the Spanish people had any influence on that.


Ever hear of Housing and Urban Development? Barny Frank defending the practices of Franny and Freddie?


And they did. By 2000, Fannie was offering no-downpayment loans. By 2002, Fannie and Freddie had bought well over $1 trillion of subprime and other low quality loans. Fannie and Freddie were by far the largest part of this effort, but the FHA, Federal Home Loan Banks, Veterans Administration and other agencies--all under congressional and HUD pressure--followed suit. This continued through the 1990s and 2000s until the housing bubble--created by all this government-backed spending--collapsed in 2007. As a result, in 2008, before the mortgage meltdown that triggered the crisis, there were 27 million subprime and other low quality mortgages in the US financial system. That was half of all mortgages. Of these, over 70% (19.2 million) were on the books of government agencies like Fannie and Freddie, so there is no doubt that the government created the demand for these weak loans; less than 30% (7.8 million) were held or distributed by the banks, which profited from the opportunity created by the government. When these mortgages failed in unprecedented numbers in 2008, driving down housing prices throughout the U.S., they weakened all financial institutions and caused the financial crisis.



Government and the entitlment mentality started this whole thing off. Anyone who wants to throw a banker in jail but wants to leave Barney Frank and Bill Clinton alone for their roles in this is a hypocrite.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:21 AM
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We can all learn from this,when the same scenario unfolds in our countries.The message is clear,the police have obviously chosen their side,but they are the minority,remember that,sheer force of numbers will prevail in the end.

Now we will need to wait and see which way Spain's military turns should things become too hot for the police.

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posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by icepack
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whose fault is it ? the people, who gave the credits or the people, who took the credits ? (serious question)



You hit the nail on the head there brother.

They stop trying and decide to live off of free money and then claim that governments are keeping people down by not giving them free money.

Why do drug dealers give a mark a free sample of their product? Because it's easy to prey on weak minds if you give them what they want.


I'm guessing you're not Spanish, and that you've never been to Spain either.


This is the typical propaganda line we've seen from Conservatives around the world, but they all blame the people without considering that people elect a GOVERNMENT charged with their nations management. It's easy to blame the people for the wrongs of a government, but the fact remains that it is successive governments that have failed, spending money they didn't have on things they didn't need.

No government on Earth should be borrowing any money from anyone. Just as individuals are expected to live within their means, governments should be also. But they're not, they have been trapped into debt just like your neighbor who has eight credit cards and will spend ten years just paying off the interest before they can actually get to the debt they've built up.

When did it become normal for a government to borrow money? Why has this not been considered a problem until this collapse?

It's basic mathematics, you earn $100, you spend $90, you save $10. Governments take in money through GDP and taxation of the people, they budget for their spending over the following months based on that income, they save what they need to "just in case"... it's not rocket science, but somehow they make it out to be to justify their own lavish spending on military projects and lining their own pockets.

What we are seeing is the result of their collusion with bankers and corporations, allowing them to pay less in tax than they owe, allowing them to play games and create money through debt that is so large the mass of the Earth could not pay it, the continued extraction of wealth to off-shore havens by multinational corporations, the corruption of corporation and state, and the blatant mismanagement of the public funds to a catastrophic degree.

The original crisis that caused the collapse is almost irrelevant, because the results would have been the same. You can't keep taking money out of a piggy bank forever, one day it will be empty. That is what has now happened.

You can compare it to a casino quite adequately. The rich have been playing at the tables, building up their piles of chips. It's fine as long as everyone keeps playing the games. But when they start to cash in their chips and head to the exit, only the first few are actually going to get their money. The rest doesn't exist, it's been created from nothing by the tables, nothing more than numbers on a screen. So how do you pay them? The house has started pick-pocketing the staff, sending gangs out into the neighborhood to loot and rob, raiding other casinos with more money than them, mugging old ladies in the street, cashing in their own kids college funds... whatever they can do to keep the rich people happy, hoping that they'll decide to carry on gambling at the tables or that they might come back again after they leave.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by SheopleNation

Originally posted by seethetruth
and it was France who had the revolution not Spain


Wrong, Spain had theirs too. Unless The Spanish revolution of 1868 happened in bizzaro World? ~$heopleNation

in 1936 there was a worker revolution but it was not a big revaluation like the French the Spanish was just in some areas
and 1866 it was more of a military coup that a revolt from the people



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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5:25 to 5:37 in the video OP posted is just epic, haha.



posted on Oct, 8 2012 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by judus

Originally posted by seethetruth
the Spanish police were beating other police as they protested just makes me wonder where they get there riot police from , and the protests are just in Madrid its not all over Spain ,,

and it was France who had the revolution not Spain , the French cut the heads off all the rich aristocrat and bankers just like what we need to do only they have been clever this time and they have everybody where they want them ,,struggling to keep there mortgage payments up so they dare not revolt and loose every thing ,,,



You are joking ???

No Spanish revolution !!!!

And in another post you say you live in Spain !!! you Troll

You can not event mutter the word "Franco" in Spain.

en.wikipedia.org...

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there was not a Spanish peoples revolution like what we are talking about , there was a workers revolution in some areas of Spain and a military revolt (coup) not the same as a people revolution ,,

and you must be really good to be able to tell where people live and you can say Franco as much as you want in Spain ,,,,, some people really take the biscuit






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