Identifying evil people

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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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reply to post by Aazadan
 


"Unchecked free market".....leading to less winners and more losers. Can you elaborate on your position? Because it's not my fault, it's not Joe Lunchbox's fault, if you make an investment and it fails. It's not my fault that if you start a business and it's not successful. Nor is it my fault that children are having children, that some people are totally comfortable with living off of the government cheese. I recognize that some people need some help, but your mistake, your lack of responsibility, or your unwillingness to try and work a little harder - these things should not be my responsibility.

Am I wrong or are you championing redistribution?




posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Sorry Bubba, but the Democrats, liberals and progressives believe Romney to be evil because he does harmful things and has no remorse. In fact, he is unable to accept that he has ever done anything wrong. ( much like Bush the Younger.)

When people brought up the episode about the dog on the roof of the car, he simply could not grasp what was wrong about that. The only problem that he sees with it is that people got upset that he would treat an animal that way. Which BTW would have been illegal in most states even way back then. BTW the dog did not come home from that outing; couple of different stories about that. Make up your own mind.

When he was confronted with the hair cutting episode he claimed he didn't remember. Well, others did. Oh, he also "borrowed" a State Police uniform and bubble light so he could pull people over on the highway. Just for fun.

This is not a good man. He may play by the Mormon playbook and make nicey nicey with his perfect little family but the man hasn't a truly moral bone in his body.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 07:10 PM
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The philology of philosophy is a matter of interpretation.
Interpretation is often the matter of a gatekeeper as the keeper of 'a' gate to knowledge/wisdom past and present.

The rest is open for interpretation.
(pouring 3rd glass of wine, organic without the sulfites!).....
Spinning, rolling 6 ft. under/6 ft. up., and oh7 through the 4 winds.
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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 07:24 PM
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The whole premise of this thread is downright ridiculous and insulting to anyone that is left of Reactionary Right. The most socialist among us 'Leftists' do not grade people's evilness based on how wealthy they are, we do not demonize the rich. This thread is more of the typical trivializing of anything valuable the Center or Left have to say. It is not the wealthy we think are evil, it is the irresponsible policy, deregulation, and the outright whorish selling out of our politicians to lobby's and special interest, that we deem not just evil... but unamerican.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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How does this idiocy make the top thread? I'm so sick of this hyperbolic nonsense. Do you live in your mom's basement? How could any intelligent person take this seriously?



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by BobM88
reply to post by Valhall
 


If I measure myself to this scale, I'm nearing Sainthood!!




This is why I love ATS.

You made me laugh and that is good medicine.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:06 PM
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OMG...do you realize you're saying the same thing with a tremendous amount of words again? You're proving out exactly what I'm saying about the liberal mentality.

So because a poor family takes 61.5% of their income to meet their rent and utilities a non-poor working family should do what???

WHAT?

Pay more taxes? WTF?

Guess what. When I was starting out, I couldn't pay the rent and the childcare in the same month. I worked two jobs in order to juggle offsetting the rent from the child care bill and not get myself kicked out of my rent home or my child kicked out of daycare.

Guess how life works? It's tough when you don't make much money. Sometimes, it doesn't get any easier. Other times, you work and you work and it gets easier. Sometimes, you make the right choices, get the right breaks, or whatever causes it, but all of a sudden you're comfortable and you don't worry about paying the light bill.

So is the theory here we just pay enough taxes that no one ever has to struggle through the tough years? They go from mom's tit to comfortable, paid for via other people? Are we supposed to pay taxes until everyone's rent is down to some maximum limit of their earned income? Exactly how do we pull off fixing the "woes" you describe? How do you want to fix that? Tax people so that poor people don't struggle? The poor people aren't paying taxes, you understand that, right? So what are you proposing from all the statistics and verbiage you offer that solves "being poor"? A direct credit system? Take the people's money if it is considered to be "left over" (i.e. disposable) and hand it to those who have no disposable or rent higher than a certain percent of their income?

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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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No you doofus - poor peole should pay less tax because the CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE THE INCOME

your fantasy world where they get paid money taken from the rich is jsut BS.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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Unfortunately there are many living in the basement; most often defrauded by the towers that be.....some more intentionally than others!

One could invest their money in (real estate, stock market, prec. metals), study/analyze the stock, real estate, precious metals markets like a rabbit in heat only to find, 'reason' does not apply for it is all smoke in mirrors, a complete fraud, complEtely manipulated as I have have 'personally' examined that system to be as well as it's supposed checks and balances including the SEC (goldman sachs folk), DOJ (hand selected by the bankster cartel), residing Presidents' in puppet in perpetuity, compromised members of the Senate (refused to investigate BP oilspill for threat of loss of pension/healthcare parachute for LIFE for serving one term), Supreme court (hand selected by executive in 'plant') central banks, incluye Fed.Res. of the world (Rotchild, Rock-a-feller and minions).

It's all one fiat petrol dole-ar based grand fraud operation where the CEOs have already golden parachuted out of those operations at share/bagholder and taxpayer/tarp expense. 2/3rds of the house of lords in England were decommissioned/non-voting since they could not be relied upon to go along with the NWO. Lord Monckton could provide that background as many others.
Not to take a stand either way on that issue though it is what it was.

I could go on though, old story, there is enough in the know 'at the present' for a Revolution to take place. It can not be put down for those in the know have achieved the minimum necessary for an all out revolution to take place, worldwide and....."Action".....and....."Rollling" and>Pending. FDIC and SIPC 'protections' no longer valid as they are bust; by design.
I wonder why more don't take cover, leave the scene, escape underground or 'other'. What took place past and present was a self fulfilling prophecy; a foolish one. The fallout is just around the corner. This and this and this should be a matter of concern with viral consequence. Not all viruses are bad; no?

S.A. P.A.
mJ13
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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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POOR PEOPLE DON'T PAY TAXES! In fact, they get credits. Who exactly is the dufus here if you're admitting you don't know that.

Once you're to the point you are exempt from withholdings, what the hell else do you want society to do? Hand you their paycheck?
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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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I truly believe you should just go ahead and bury whatever you find of worth in your backyard in a mason jar. I don't have any other suggestions for you. Buy magic beans and bury them in your backyard.
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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


POOR PEOPLE DON'T PAY TAXES! In fact, they get credits. Who exactly is the dufus here if you're admitting you don't know that.


Why do you assume I don't know that??


Of course it depends on what you consider poor, and where you live.


Once you're to the point you are exempt from withholdings, what the hell else do you want society to do? Hand you their paycheck?


huh?

Perhaps you could stop raving for a second and make a point?
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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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reply to post by Valhall
 


Guess who else gets tax credits?



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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My point is that you don't have one. When you are talking about people who make an earning where their rent and utilities is 61.5% of their income they either are living far beyond their means, or they are below the income line that paying income tax is anything they have to worry about.

We are not talking about them unless we are the goober posting the manifestos that seem to intimate we should give those people money to ease their pain....simply because they aren't comfortable.

Now, what's your point?

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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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And I agree that they should not!



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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That poor peole shuold pay less tax because they can't afford the loss of income.

Seems you violently agree with me but don't want to admit it!!



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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What I 'found' of 'financial' worth is of 'tangible existance', not digital if that helps in our analysis.
Though the price/scarcity of Lead seems to be inflating/depleting within reason.
I'm sure you understand.
L8ter.
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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Well, since they don't pay taxes, I think we're squared away there. If you'd like to send them a little extra something in the mail each time you get paid, feel free.



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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That is the bulk of our stance against 'the evil rich'... corporations, banks, etc.
Why do you propel this type of propaganda?



posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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Touching.

Fact or fiction?

AnYone care to investigate?
For one's family's sake?
Could be worth it?
Maybe not.


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