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Originally posted by _BoneZ_
George W. Bush was the worst president in my lifetime, and probably the worst president to ever hold office in this country. With Romney incorporating roughly 70% of Bush's previous administration, you can't even fathom the destruction that will befall this country if Romney were to become president. Not to mention the further decline of the reputation of the U.S. in the eyes of the world since Romney has already made it clear he's going to be a war president, having threatened Russia and Iran at the RNC.
May whatever deity you believe in have mercy on all of us if Romney becomes president. We don't need, nor can we afford another Bush presidency.
Having said that, yes, Obama has broken nearly every promise he made when he first ran for president, but at least he's the one we "know".
We just have to stick it out another four years, and pray that Jesse Ventura decides to run for office.
edit on 6-10-2012 by _BoneZ_ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
While Obama is certainly less aggressive in the foreign policy realm than is the norm in America, I take this OP as as an overreaction to ONE debate.
And honestly, I favor Obama's shift in tone. This is no longer America's world, we have to realize that our relationship with emerging countries like China and India has to be defined by cooperation and not dictation by the US.
We are exiting the age of unilateral world power and hegemony. Fighting this shift based on a lingering attitude of absolute American exceptionalism may prove to be dangerous.edit on 10/6/2012 by PatrickGarrow17 because: (no reason given)
Didn't Bush bring the matter to Congress to get their approval under the War Powers Act?
And where has he gone beyond Bush? Bush acted unilaterally, Obama went into Libya with NATO.
At 5:34 a.m. Baghdad time on March 20, 2003 (9:34 p.m., March 19 EST) the surprise military invasion of Iraq began. There was no declaration of war. The 2003 invasion of Iraq, led by U.S. army General Tommy Franks, began under the codename "Operation Iraqi Liberation", later renamed "Operation Iraqi Freedom", the UK codename Operation Telic, and the Australian codename Operation Falconer. Coalition forces also cooperated with Kurdish Peshmerga forces in the north. Approximately forty other governments, the "U.S.-led coalition against Iraq," participated by providing troops, equipment, services, security, and special forces, with 248,000 soldiers from the United States, 45,000 British soldiers, 2,000 Australian soldiers and 194 Polish soldiers from Special Forces unit GROM sent to Kuwait for the invasion. The invasion force was also supported by Iraqi Kurdish militia troops, estimated to number upwards of 70,000. (Emphasis added)
Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
Obama's rhetoric carries a much more agreeable tone.
And where has he gone beyond Bush? Bush acted unilaterally, Obama went into Libya with NATO. Drone strikes are a product of advanced technology not the administration, and would have been carried out by Bush equally and will be by Romney if elected.
Obama hasn't been the peace maker that was advertised in '08, but his attitude is still directed toward that goal.edit on 10/9/2012 by PatrickGarrow17 because: (no reason given)
The most visible of Bush's unilateral actions consisted of retaliatory military strikes in Afghanistan
If you have paid any attention at all Obama's shift in tone has been from negotiations to military use over the past 4 years. Many of the Bush tactics Obama claimed to despised he has embraced and even gone beyond what Bush did.
The Iraq war was not sanctioned by the UN where the Libya invasion was. Iraq was a completely American led initiative, Libya was NATO. Romney's foreign policy seems to be more like Bushes in asserting American will with less regard to the opinion of the global community
The Iraq war was not sanctioned by the UN where the Libya invasion was. Iraq was a completely American led initiative, Libya was NATO.
Yes I do see the difference, and I think listening to the UN is just as important as listening to Congress.