The bogus, "born gay" argument

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I would like to believe in god as good god rather than just some guy who created us and i would really and truly like you to prove me wrong but this is how i see it. God creates us as slaves, gives us free will but the only claus in that freewill is that we must worship him or we end up in a mass grave in the center of the Earth surfering for eiternity.

The first truth or faith you must test is your own. One thing i have always wondered is this and i asked this to another guy i used to debate Bible matters with he was very clever and turn me to the light side so to speak. Who created god. The other guy i spoke to said he has always been and exists outside of time as we know it which makes it very hard for us to understand. I was hopeing that you cold do a better job.

Shorty,

You have some good questions and I have good answers but the scope of this thread is limited to a different topic. If you would like to talk about those questions you have I�m ready, willing and able. I�ll send you a private message.