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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
So the central bank should have "surplus" ?
You mean profit?
Sorry there should be no central bank, that is what the fed is that needs to be ended and one of the most corrupt organizations in this country just like all those other "public" entitles called government and their social programs.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
What about the rockefellers, rothschilds, duponts and vanderbilts? How come they are NOT on that or ANY LIST to speak of?
Are the deep billionares and trillionares being covered up or what? You know OLD MONEY!
Some people DO INHERIT wealth.
Originally posted by neo96
Current federal spending level: $3.5 trillion dollars.
They could give every man,woman, and child, $10 million each that is 330 million Americans.
Must be a lot of overhead somewhere.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
What about the rockefellers, rothschilds, duponts and vanderbilts? How come they are NOT on that or ANY LIST to speak of?
Are the deep billionares and trillionares being covered up or what? You know OLD MONEY!
Some people DO INHERIT wealth.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
What about the rockefellers, rothschilds, duponts and vanderbilts? How come they are NOT on that or ANY LIST to speak of?
Are the deep billionares and trillionares being covered up or what? You know OLD MONEY!
Some people DO INHERIT wealth.
Yet the myth that most people inherit their wealth is patently false. Secondly, this class warfare is not just about the Rockefellers, but is against and and all high wage earners.
Originally posted by campanionator
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
What about the rockefellers, rothschilds, duponts and vanderbilts? How come they are NOT on that or ANY LIST to speak of?
Are the deep billionares and trillionares being covered up or what? You know OLD MONEY!
Some people DO INHERIT wealth.
Yet the myth that most people inherit their wealth is patently false. Secondly, this class warfare is not just about the Rockefellers, but is against and and all high wage earners.
This about the elite class squeezing the rest dry, nobody would be upset otherwise if we were all
thriving.
Gas has gone up 300% in a decade, yet taxes have lowered and the elites are richer than ever before.
Makes your beliefs look illogical
Originally posted by campanionator
Originally posted by neo96
Current federal spending level: $3.5 trillion dollars.
They could give every man,woman, and child, $10 million each that is 330 million Americans.
Must be a lot of overhead somewhere.
3,500,000,000,000
350,000,000
Not so sure about 10 million
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by campanionator
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
What about the rockefellers, rothschilds, duponts and vanderbilts? How come they are NOT on that or ANY LIST to speak of?
Are the deep billionares and trillionares being covered up or what? You know OLD MONEY!
Some people DO INHERIT wealth.
Yet the myth that most people inherit their wealth is patently false. Secondly, this class warfare is not just about the Rockefellers, but is against and and all high wage earners.
This about the elite class squeezing the rest dry, nobody would be upset otherwise if we were all
thriving.
Gas has gone up 300% in a decade, yet taxes have lowered and the elites are richer than ever before.
Makes your beliefs look illogical
Except that is not true. THe elites (whomever they are) are not bleeding us dry, government is. THe solution is not MORE government. These facts make your premise look illogical.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
What about the rockefellers, rothschilds, duponts and vanderbilts? How come they are NOT on that or ANY LIST to speak of?
Are the deep billionares and trillionares being covered up or what? You know OLD MONEY!
Some people DO INHERIT wealth.
Who cares? Really. Who cares?
This obsession with other peoples money!
Maybe treatment for it is covered under ObamaCare!
Originally posted by campanionator
gas, which is privately priced and distributed was $1.30 in 2002 is now over $4.00 in 2012
Taxes have not been risen, yet prices have tripled. Those are facts
edit on 6-10-2012 by campanionator because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by campanionator
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
What about the rockefellers, rothschilds, duponts and vanderbilts? How come they are NOT on that or ANY LIST to speak of?
Are the deep billionares and trillionares being covered up or what? You know OLD MONEY!
Some people DO INHERIT wealth.
Yet the myth that most people inherit their wealth is patently false. Secondly, this class warfare is not just about the Rockefellers, but is against and and all high wage earners.
This about the elite class squeezing the rest dry, nobody would be upset otherwise if we were all
thriving.
Gas has gone up 300% in a decade, yet taxes have lowered and the elites are richer than ever before.
Makes your beliefs look illogical
Except that is not true. THe elites (whomever they are) are not bleeding us dry, government is. THe solution is not MORE government. These facts make your premise look illogical.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
A government controlled by elites is tyranny. Stop with the circular arguements! It is silly.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by campanionator
gas, which is privately priced and distributed was $1.30 in 2002 is now over $4.00 in 2012
Taxes have not been risen, yet prices have tripled. Those are facts
edit on 6-10-2012 by campanionator because: (no reason given)
And the facts are that overregulation, shutting down refineries, forbidding new pipelines and drilling, and mandates of dozens of different formulations of gasolie has caused this price spike, not some cabalistic conspiracy.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by NavyDoc
What about the rockefellers, rothschilds, duponts and vanderbilts? How come they are NOT on that or ANY LIST to speak of?
Are the deep billionares and trillionares being covered up or what? You know OLD MONEY!
Some people DO INHERIT wealth.
Yet the myth that most people inherit their wealth is patently false. Secondly, this class warfare is not just about the Rockefellers, but is against and and all high wage earners.
Originally posted by campanionator
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by campanionator
gas, which is privately priced and distributed was $1.30 in 2002 is now over $4.00 in 2012
Taxes have not been risen, yet prices have tripled. Those are facts
edit on 6-10-2012 by campanionator because: (no reason given)
And the facts are that overregulation, shutting down refineries, forbidding new pipelines and drilling, and mandates of dozens of different formulations of gasolie has caused this price spike, not some cabalistic conspiracy.
I am using numbers
You make it sound as if the industry wants to keep prices low... While reality would dictate
they would want to make all the money possible. Which they have, the highest profits in history.
Those historic profits indicate that they could have offset/lowered prices, yet they
chose profits.
You are using a cabalistic conspiracy with seven components if you've noticed,
300% increase and highest profits and history tell pretty clear story, you chose to ignore
the truth.
edit on 6-10-2012 by campanionator because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by campanionator
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by campanionator
gas, which is privately priced and distributed was $1.30 in 2002 is now over $4.00 in 2012
Taxes have not been risen, yet prices have tripled. Those are facts
edit on 6-10-2012 by campanionator because: (no reason given)
And the facts are that overregulation, shutting down refineries, forbidding new pipelines and drilling, and mandates of dozens of different formulations of gasolie has caused this price spike, not some cabalistic conspiracy.
I am using numbers
You make it sound as if the industry wants to keep prices low... While reality would dictate
they would want to make all the money possible. Which they have, the highest profits in history.
Those historic profits indicate that they could have offset/lowered prices, yet they
chose profits.
You are using a cabalistic conspiracy with seven components if you've noticed,
300% increase and highest profits and history tell pretty clear story, you chose to ignore
the truth.
edit on 6-10-2012 by campanionator because: (no reason given)
No, you ignore the truth. The highest profits, sure, but still around 10% which is not eggregious by any sort of measure. You maximize profit by finding the balance between increased prices and decreased demand. If you price your products too high, demand and profit will fall. The truth of the matter is that the oil companies are not causing these price increases.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
The trillionares protect the billionares and the billionares protect the millionares. Socialism for the rich is a given while everyone else has to survive cut throat capitalism. The more money you accumulate, the more money you can spend on lobbying and buying a president.
Then people wonder why libertarians, socialists, greens, constitutionalists can't make it on the debate floor.
Everything is interconnected somehow. People like you don't bother state facts cause you have a wall street agenda. Obvious now?
The Trilateral Commission was founded in 1973 by David Rockefeller with Zbigniew Brzezinski as executive director, after Brzezinski published Between Two Ages, which became the blueprint for the TC. David read and appreciated his ideas, which included, "Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man's universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief."
"Such a society would be dominated by an elite whose claim to political power would rest on allegedly superior scientific know-how. Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control."
"The Soviet Union could have emerged as the standard-bearer of this century's most influential system of thought and as the social model for resolving the key dilemmas facing modern man." 33
David Rockefeller was the connection and influence to the Earth Charter and Maurice Strong of Canada. In 1972 Strong was Secretary General of the first Earth Summit in Stockholm. This led to the creation of the United Nations Environmental Program (UNEP) 40 in 1972. Strong was UNEP's first Exec. Director. At the same time Strong served as the Director of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN).41 The IUCN was accredited by the UN in 1946 to become its "scientific advisor" and was made up of various government scientists. Within the IUCN, the EPA, USFWS (who administers The US Endangered Species Act), Nat. Park Service, US Forest Service, and Nat. Ocean and Atmosphere Adm. huddle behind closed doors with the Sierra Club, National Audubon, National Wildlife Federation, Nature Conservancy, Natural Resources Defense Council, Environ. Defense Fund, etc. to plan and implement this global agenda and the new global ethics from above and below. The IUCN wrote the Convention on Biodiversity 42 and created the pantheistic pseudoscience called "conservation biology" to "prove" earth's ecosystems were being mortally wounded by human use. The IUCN also founded the World Wildlife Fund for Nature (WWF) and the World Resources Institute (WRI) which pass the banner back and fourth in developing and promoting treaties and agreements ... " 43
Steven C. Rockefeller, Chair, the UN's Earth Charter 44 International Drafting Committee. The Earth Summit held in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, began drafting the Earth Charter. "the Earth Charter [objectives] are fully in line with the goals and ideals enshrined in the constitution of UNESCO," of which SIL is a Partner. Robert S. McNamara, mentioned above, is an honorary member of the Earth Charter.