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Originally posted by jimmiec
reply to post by campanionator
Here is a video of Obama campaigning on higher gas prices so that alternative energy sources can compete. He wants high gas prices. It is just inconvenient right before election. If he is elected the price will go up much higher.
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by campanionator
You are ignoring a 300% increase in prices sir.
Did you get a 300% raise?
have pumps, motors and drill bits increased 300%???
NO
The price has been too high for years and what have the done???
They have RAISED PRICES
Are you being serious or are you kidding?
I think, for some reason, you think oil companies or market makers have a motivation to lower
prices.
I don't know what to say to you, it really bothers me that you can't wrap your head around the
incongruence of what you are arguing for.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by campanionator
You are ignoring a 300% increase in prices sir.
Did you get a 300% raise?
have pumps, motors and drill bits increased 300%???
NO
The price has been too high for years and what have the done???
They have RAISED PRICES
Are you being serious or are you kidding?
I think, for some reason, you think oil companies or market makers have a motivation to lower
prices.
I don't know what to say to you, it really bothers me that you can't wrap your head around the
incongruence of what you are arguing for.
And I can't wrap my head on the lack of knowlege of how things work in the industry or the market. Refineries have been shut down, this reduces supply and increases cost of creating the goods.
Exploration has been limited, which drives up the potential future cost of any commodity.
At the proposed Canadian pipline, prices dipped because of anticipation of increased supply, when it was killed (on our end) by the administration, prices went up becuase that increase of supply was taken away. It is very expensive to have many formulations of gasoline, especially with refineries going off line. The lefties in California mandate many of these formulations for "environmental" reasons. Guess what? Gas in California is shooting up to 6 bucks a gallon.
Lets see if you can understand this: the cost of corn and wheat have gone up this year. Must be those dirty farmers, by your logic, price fixing and gouging. Nevermind that there was a drought that reduced supply.
Gas is up because of decisions made by our elected representatives. That, sir, is the facts behind the matter regardless how much people hate "corporations."
Have you seen any evidence that profits have increased by 300%? No, of course not because there is none.
Originally posted by beezzer
If you increase taxes on the wealthy, then prices for goods and services will increase propotionately and the burden will then be on the poor and middle classes to cover it.
If government can't control spending, then they will continue to raise/want to raise taxes.
Originally posted by neo96
then add the dollar was worth a lot more, and they were not importing thousands of products everyday we were exporting.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by campanionator
Keep trying. Please defend class warfare and wealth redistribution.
Or continue with the personal insults.
Whichever. . . . . . .
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by campanionator
So, using your example of the oil companies, they want to make profit!
But if government taxes them more, they won't want to make more profit and raise prices??
Seems like you're contradicting yourself.
Originally posted by Andcoulter
Originally posted by campanionator
In your world, it only works one way, and that is pretty good for millionaires, while the rest of
us get squeezed by over 100% increases, you propose they get a break.
Explain yourself.
He cannot.
Neo cannot answer a straight question.
He can barely seem to hold a simple concept for even a fleeting moment. This entire thread is just right wing talk radio online.
He is entitled to have wealth handed to him, he said so. He does not know why and he spent several pages complaining about entitlements.
What you did here was confuse him by using words that go together when you write stuff.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
What? Where do you get that? Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, JK Rowling, Nick Sparks, Steve Speilburg, George Lucas, Ross Perot, Oprah Winfrey, etc are all self made.
Originally posted by beezzer
Punishing people because they inherited money is like punishing people because they were born with a genetic disposition to be tall.
This absolute hatred towards anyone with wealth astounds me.
Growing up, we all talked about working and getting jobs where we could all be wealthy.
Now?
People look at wealthy folks and say, "Git 'em!"
I guess it's easier and lazier to get money redistributed from government than working for it. But it sets such a lousy precedent!edit on 6-10-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Andcoulter
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by campanionator
So, using your example of the oil companies, they want to make profit!
But if government taxes them more, they won't want to make more profit and raise prices??
Seems like you're contradicting yourself.
This is a capitalist country according to you and I am fairly sure you defend capitalism all the time.
So who cares if gas gets too expensive. The free market will control prices, right? Gas is too expensive so we will just buy something else.
Oh... wait...damn now your ideologies are vomiting all over each other just like Neo's opening post and subsequent responses about it.
NICE SUIT FOLLOWING at least.
I guess if you cannot discuss the topic, just keep shoveling #.
Originally posted by campanionator
So can you tell me why gas prices have increased over 300% in a decade even though taxes
have been lowered?
Do you have a theory?
Maybe I should hit my head with a truck and then I'll understand???
The blame game????again????? Yet you ignore the fact he had the first two years as an open book, anything he wanted. Why do people seem to forget this? Like I said, no culpability, no responsibility, nothing. He just isn't here. I believe he is the one who CHOSE this job, PROMISED hope and change, PROMISED to make a difference. Or did I get that wrong?
Originally posted by Useyourreason
Originally posted by Gridrebel
Oh.....did we forget to say Thank You to Obama? Last time I remembered, I wanted to be well off, able to afford groceries, gas and a little fun stuff. I can say I barely afford gas, I've stocked up on groceries, thank goodness. The fun stuff????? Maybe next year.
Obama is lame, his whole essence is to barely get by. It's what he practices and what he is advocating.
edit on 6-10-2012 by Gridrebel because: (no reason given)
I'm surprised that you can't remember who crashed the economy. No mortal could turn the disaster around that George W Bush put the U.S. in (the 8 years he was in power) within 4 years.
Especially with the Republicans saying their main goal was getting him out of officewww.youtube.com... (not advancing America, but getting their rival out of office) and blocking his every effort and then accusing him of not doing anything?
This is the type of tactics republicans use
www.youtube.com...#!
they don't believe in democracy only winning.
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Obama, Pelosi and Reid had a super majority in Congress for 2 years. Before that, Pelosi and Reid had a super majority under Bush for 2 years.
During those years of democrat domination, they failed to pass a budget for over 865 days, yet they blame it on Bush and the GOP.
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