The government has ways of getting rid of inspirational people without anyone knowing... this is how

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posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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The government is living in fear! Fear of the unknown, or change to the status quo.

Anyone they consider "different", "paranormal", or "dangerous to the status quo" is a likely candidate to be sent to a mental institution. Places full of corrupt doctors and lawyers, and of course innocent suffering people. The reason they are suffering (although they may not know it) is because there is so little oxygen. All it takes is 4-5 weeks in an area with so little air and you will never be as happy again, because your brain is permanently changed to create a lot less neurotransmitters (your brains reward system).

The reason they kept me in there so long because I would not eat hospital food or water, & ate my own natural and unprocessed foods.

They called it my "delusions" about food as a reason for my psychosis.

And they had a professional on "aspergers" (my diagnoses) who came in and after I explained how I'm not paranoid, I just have obsessions... for example I really like the idea of being anonymous, so during the night I like shutting all the blinds... that doesn't make me paranoid (my parents think it does).

I am probably going to change the world though, I want to start collecting info on the changes that go through people sent to mental institutions and start a charity to fund getting an oxygen source (for example in jails they sometimes have slits in the walls which work).
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posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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Any last requests?

I understand about wanting anonymity but I think you need to get out more so this obsession doesn't become the devil you are afraid of.

You are suffocating yourself me thinks.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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You sound rational to me. Hang in there and keep fighting the fight. You will acheive great things.




posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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Be careful you are already obsessed with this topic, don't let it consume you, the more you repeat something the less people pay attention.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by PeaceLoveProject
The government is living in fear! Fear of the unknown, or change to the status quo.

Anyone they consider "different", "paranormal", or "dangerous to the status quo" is a likely candidate to be sent to a mental institution. Places full of corrupt doctors and lawyers, and of course innocent suffering people. The reason they are suffering (although they may not know it) is because there is so little oxygen. All it takes is 4-5 weeks in an area with so little air and you will never be as happy again, because your brain is permanently changed to create a lot less neurotransmitters (your brains reward system).

The reason they kept me in there so long because I would not eat hospital food or water, & ate my own natural and unprocessed foods.

They called it my "delusions" about food as a reason for my psychosis.




And they had a professional on "aspergers" (my diagnoses) who came in and after I explained how I'm not paranoid, I just have obsessions... for example I really like the idea of being anonymous, so during the night I like shutting all the blinds... that doesn't make me paranoid (my parents think it does).

I am probably going to change the world though, I want to start collecting info on the changes that go through people sent to mental institutions and start a charity to fund getting an oxygen source (for example in jails they sometimes have slits in the walls which work).
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This is the same post you put up as



The worst secret the government doesn't want you to know! - ..::EVIL::.., page 1


You also sound exactly the same as a poster on here not so long ago withnthemsame,symptoms as yourself, you sure you arenot one and the same person who was on here with a different name?
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posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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I think I must have some of that negative oxygen stuff as I think I have just read this on another thread. But I wouldn't know because I'm now too old to remember three sentences worth of info.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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I am begining to see some crazy Shiznizilnit on ATS, tonight....


I have absolutely no idea what the op is trying to write relate or TEACH/expain or tell his or her readers, all I got out of it was inmaturity and the need for psych meds...

I knew a chick who had OCD once...



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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the thing is people are out to get you.
advertising is all about brain washing you to buy what they sell.

religion makes you follow their religion. or be said to follow the devil.
God mad people SHOULD be put in nut houses.

politicians try to get you to believe in them.
so they can have power over you all.
even friends and family try to make you follow fashion,
cloths music food.

think about it.
ever thing around you is trying to take over your mind.
I wounder is any one has any free will.
just look at how many freaks and strange people their are.

how can the freaks and strange believe they have free will,
when their are so many of us???

its like Punks.
they wont to be different!
have you seen how many punks are out their?

every thing manipulates us.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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PeaceLoveProject,

You sound like a pretty rational person in this post so I don't think you're crazy for wanting to eat unprocessed food and like your privacy at night time. If I can offer any advice to you regarding the other people that may or may not share your views, be very careful with topics and word choices. The reason I say this is because misplaced word choices have a tendency of painting obscure perceptions to others. They will ridicule you, corner you and when you act out they will place you in a ward of some sort. This is how many people deal with others of differing opinion, especially those that threaten the status quo.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by MaurinQuina
I am begining to see some crazy Shiznizilnit on ATS, tonight....


I have absolutely no idea what the op is trying to write relate or TEACH/expain or tell his or her readers, all I got out of it was inmaturity and the need for psych meds...

I knew a chick who had OCD once...



Maurin,

What the op is saying is that oxygen deprivation can make someone depressed and will alter their brain chemistry for good. He is recommending regular oxygen treatments and/or fixing the ventilation and circulation of many facilities. I can't say for sure whether or not there is low oxygen there however he/she has experienced it first hand. It is his opinion and possibly fact (if he/she can show some study or proof). It has nothing to do with his maturity level or psych medication.

BTW, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder does not constitute someone needing drugs. How about denying ignorance for once. Usually, there is an underlying cause to it which needs addressing. That is the true "cure" for things of that nature.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Yes it is true, it happened to me too, they do oxygen deprivation, other patients noticed it too. They do it for no reason at all.



posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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I am going to be honest man. Unless english isn't your first language and something is getting lost in translation this does sound paranoid and it does sound crazy.
You should maybe considering seeking out someone to talk to on your own.

Also.. what of all the people that live in very high altitudes. Is this different? Are those people less happy? What of people that go through oxygen deprivation training? The idea that you are less happy forever after oxygen deprivation is a paranoid thought.

anthro.palomar.edu...

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posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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Perhaps it isn't so much to do with lack of oxygen, as more infiltration in the environment of higher levels of carbon dioxide and monoxide.
we have had a spate of widespread forest fires in the last few years, for instance, that have thrown off a smoke cloud that can be seen clearly from space.

this also serves to interfere with satellite picture transmissions, and anything else which may be "looking" from the outer limits; however, this is another topic altogether.

An influx of both these chemicals in the environment is clearly known, medically, to cause a change in brain chemistry at certain levels.

some other environmental exposure risks are exhaust fumes, and contaminated materials used in home building and boiler (heating) systems.
Link


EFFECTS OF SHORT-TERM EXPOSURE
CO affects health by interfering with the systemic transport of oxygen to tissues (especially the heart and other muscles and brain tissue). The resulting impairment of O2 delivery cause tissue hypoxia and interferes with cellular respiration. Direct intracellular uptake of CO could permit interactions with haemoproteins such as myoglobin, cytochrome oxidase and cytochrome P-450, and therefore interfere with electron transport processes and energy production at the cellular level. Thus, in addition to observed physiological effects and cardiovascular effects, CO can modify electron transport in nerve cells resulting in behavioural, neurological and developmental toxicological consequences, and may itself play a role in neurotransmission.

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Carbon monoxide exposure causes unintentional and suicidal poisonings, and a large number of deaths annually both in Europe and in the United States. It is estimated that more than half of the 6000 annual deaths from fires in the Unites States is caused by CO poisoning (2). It is obvious that such homes exist where CO concentrations are high enough to increase chronic health effects, especially among sensitive populations such as pregnant women, the fetus, children, the elderly, and individuals suffering from anemia or other diseases that restrict oxygen transport between blood and cells (3).
Annual number of deaths due to inddor Co poisoning has decreased in Europe in the last decades, still they represent a major public health issue. Data from Italy indicate that deaths varied from 135-150 cases per year in the first part of the 80s to 40-105 cases in the very last years (4). Data from France are similar, indicating that deaths attributable to indoor CO poisoning passed from 260/280 cases in the first part of the 80s to 88/107 cases in the first years of this century (5).
First signs and symptoms on healthy individuals, such as decreases in work capacity and decrements of neurobehavioral functions start at [COHb] of 5%, whereas first signs of CO poisoning appear at [COHb] concentrations of 10%. However, the variability within the human population must be considered high. A [COHb] of about 15 % only leads to slight symptoms, such as headache, in healthy adults. In contrast, the same [COHb] can cause long-lasting defects in the cognitive development and behavioural alterations in children or even contribute to death from myocardial infarction in individuals with coronary artery disease (6).

Also:


Often, individuals suffering from CO poisoning are unaware of their exposure because symptoms are similar to those associated with viral illness or clinical depression (2). This may result in a significant number of misdiagnoses by medical professionals. Although the precise number of individuals who suffer from CO poisoning is not known, it is certainly much larger than that indicated by mortality figures. It has been estimated that more than 10 000 people per year in the United States required medical attention or missed at least 1 day of work in the early 1970s because of sublethal exposures to CO.
Further:


Neurological and neurobehavioural effects
Central nervous system (CNS) effects in individuals suffering acute CO poisoning cover a wide range, depending on severity of exposure: headache, dizziness, weakness, nausea, vomiting, disorientation, confusion, collapse, and coma.
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At low concentrations, CNS effects include reduction in visual perception, manual dexterity, learning, driving performance, and attention level. Earlier work is frequently cited to justify the statement that CO exposure sufficient to produce COHb levels of ca. 5% would be sufficient to produce visual sensitivity reduction and various neurobehavioral performance deficits.

Lastly, a little factoid to address the altitude question earlier:



Subpopulations at increased risk of adverse effects 8. Individuals who have not adapted to high altitude and are exposed to a combination of high altitude and CO.
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posted on Oct, 4 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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So, what i am saying here is there is a scientific and medical basis for what the OP describes, and his/her reaction under such circumstances would be to sound and appear to be everything OP has been castigated and religated to in responses: paranoid, crazy, etc.

I think, humbly, with the link and information I provided above, what this OP proposes is fairly probable. And I have to say with all the threads we have on this forum concerning the "watchers" and how much and how intrusive this may be in our environment, anyone would crave privacy, especially at night when we are at our most vulnerable, in sleeping. Not only that, but we have a great many threads about GMO foods. Surely I need say no more about the OP's wishing to control his/her food source.....

In short, it all sounds pretty sound, spot on, and sane to me. The saddest thing is, on this forum we talk about such things as a matter of course, and if someone has suffered neurological health consequences and doesn't word it "just right" for everyone, they're judged to be looney tunes. Go figure.......

To the OP: Keep your head up. As another said in response to you, keep fighting for your sanity. And always remember that whispering will cause more people to shut up and listen then yelling ever did. Not that you were yelling here, just a small piece of old age aquired advice. Take care of yourself, and above all, trust yourself. And next time, back your claims up with some sourcing. I'm bad about this, too, but it makes us appear oh so sane in the face of saying something that will automatically have us challenged for our sanity. You might also want to do some research on the effect and reaction of these chemicals with ozone. It may prove interesting and provide some answers to your seeking.



posted on Oct, 5 2012 @ 01:01 AM
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That doesn't really work though. That doesn't really have any bearing on what I or OP are talking about, especially the bit about forest fires.

As for the altitude thing, yeah everyone knows you have to adjust and you feel it upon exposure and can become sick, OP is implying oxygen deprivation (intentional or accidental) that somehow occurs in mental institutions (which isn't that likely, but possible) causes you to be permenantly and whenceforth less capable of happiness.



posted on Oct, 5 2012 @ 01:16 AM
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He is not talking about privacy, he is talking about anonymity and he does sound paranoid.
That is why I asked if english was the OP's first language because there is a very disjointed illogical way of explaining that also may be very telling. It's not exactly straight forward.



posted on Oct, 5 2012 @ 01:46 AM
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If you visited the link I supplied, and/or read what I quoted from it, it certainly does "work." If your neurotransmitters are malfunctioning, you may attribute that to all kinds of things not knowing, because your neurotransmitters, i.e. YOUR BRAIN, isn't/aren't working. Get it?

Secondly, this link provides information about the environment of buildings, from institutions of varying kinds, to homes, personal abodes, and the reactions of ozone, oxygen, and polluting factors giving off and causing certain reactions which produce carbon monoxide/dioxide in levels sufficient to incapacitate to varying degrees, the percentages which cause that, and what each percentage can manifest in a human body and the level of damage, disorientation, or incapacitation.

I suspect you didn't fully read, nor visit the link I provided.
Regardless, we can agree to disagree, and I say I have given information to show it certainly "works" just this way, and you would "sound" just as you describe, which does not disallow all I described and provided links to, happening to you via damage to your brain and incapacitation or misfiring, if you will, of neurotransmitters, which rule your perception and ability to express it;ergo, the OP's attitude and demeanor and your translation of it.



posted on Oct, 5 2012 @ 05:10 AM
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I did read. It doesn't change my opinion. The OP is clearly not talking about pollutants and didn't present this thread in any sort of rational way. I don't think anyone is doing OP any favors, but I have noticed that they haven't really stayed on this thread much so I suspect it doesn't matter.



posted on Oct, 5 2012 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by PeaceLoveProject
The government is living in fear! Fear of the unknown, or change to the status quo.

Anyone they consider "different", "paranormal", or "dangerous to the status quo" is a likely candidate to be sent to a mental institution. Places full of corrupt doctors and lawyers, and of course innocent suffering people. The reason they are suffering (although they may not know it) is because there is so little oxygen. All it takes is 4-5 weeks in an area with so little air and you will never be as happy again, because your brain is permanently changed to create a lot less neurotransmitters (your brains reward system).

The reason they kept me in there so long because I would not eat hospital food or water, & ate my own natural and unprocessed foods.

They called it my "delusions" about food as a reason for my psychosis.

And they had a professional on "aspergers" (my diagnoses) who came in and after I explained how I'm not paranoid, I just have obsessions... for example I really like the idea of being anonymous, so during the night I like shutting all the blinds... that doesn't make me paranoid (my parents think it does).

I am probably going to change the world though, I want to start collecting info on the changes that go through people sent to mental institutions and start a charity to fund getting an oxygen source (for example in jails they sometimes have slits in the walls which work).
edit on 4-10-2012 by PeaceLoveProject because: Going to change the world


Op you are correct in what the effects of lower oxygen level can have on peoples minds

Which makes perfect sense, since the effect of higher oxygen levels on peoples state of mind, being the complete opposite as it can cause more passive tendencies as well as feelings of euphoria.

Case in point casinos pump oxygen on to the gaming floor to induce people to make more and riskier bets jus like how vegas provides you with free drink for a similar effect



posted on Oct, 5 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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I also forgot to say that the doctor (professional on aspergers) came in and after I explained to him I am not paranoid...

The doctor started acting really weird, and then he messed around with the scale before I stood on it, then he pointed to the weight in Kilograms rather than pounds and so I didn't realize it was off till later. He used that weight to say I lost 5 pounds in 1 week, to say I'm incompetent to make treatment decisions so they can force me medication even though I had proof other doctors had weighed me every day and I never lost or gained more than about 0.1lbs


Originally posted by Darkmask
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You sound rational to me. Hang in there and keep fighting the fight. You will acheive great things.



Thank you for the support 


Originally posted by CesarO
Be careful you are already obsessed with this topic, don't let it consume you, the more you repeat something the less people pay attention.


I’ll be careful, but it is still my number 1 priority.


Originally posted by HellstormRising
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PeaceLoveProject,

You sound like a pretty rational person in this post so I don't think you're crazy for wanting to eat unprocessed food and like your privacy at night time. If I can offer any advice to you regarding the other people that may or may not share your views, be very careful with topics and word choices. The reason I say this is because misplaced word choices have a tendency of painting obscure perceptions to others. They will ridicule you, corner you and when you act out they will place you in a ward of some sort. This is how many people deal with others of differing opinion, especially those that threaten the status quo.


Thank you 


Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
I am going to be honest man. Unless english isn't your first language and something is getting lost in translation this does sound paranoid and it does sound crazy.
You should maybe considering seeking out someone to talk to on your own.

Also.. what of all the people that live in very high altitudes. Is this different? Are those people less happy? What of people that go through oxygen deprivation training? The idea that you are less happy forever after oxygen deprivation is a paranoid thought.

anthro.palomar.edu...

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Yes, you could get the same problem from being at a high altitude for a long period of time, it’s called anoxia and it’s very dangerous.


Originally posted by tetra50
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Perhaps it isn't so much to do with lack of oxygen, as more infiltration in the environment of higher levels of carbon dioxide and monoxide.


I don’t think the air pollution is the biggest danger, although I’m sure that could have some more temporary ill affects. I used to meditate every day (although meditation has no affect on me anymore) and I found while I was in the institution my breathing would become extremely shallow after meditation. It’s hard to explain but I know there’s less oxygen.


Originally posted by tetra50
To the OP: Keep your head up. As another said in response to you, keep fighting for your sanity. And always remember that whispering will cause more people to shut up and listen then yelling ever did. Not that you were yelling here, just a small piece of old age aquired advice. Take care of yourself, and above all, trust yourself. And next time, back your claims up with some sourcing. I'm bad about this, too, but it makes us appear oh so sane in the face of saying something that will automatically have us challenged for our sanity. You might also want to do some research on the effect and reaction of these chemicals with ozone. It may prove interesting and provide some answers to your seeking.


Thanks for the advice, and I think I will try to source myself a bit more maybe by creating an actual video of the institution and show how far the nearest supply of oxygen are from where you sleep.


Originally posted by IblisLucifer

Op you are correct in what the effects of lower oxygen level can have on peoples minds

Which makes perfect sense, since the effect of higher oxygen levels on peoples state of mind, being the complete opposite as it can cause more passive tendencies as well as feelings of euphoria.

Case in point casinos pump oxygen on to the gaming floor to induce people to make more and riskier bets jus like how vegas provides you with free drink for a similar effect


I didn’t know that thing about casinos, very interesting.
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