Originally posted by phantomjack
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by thehoneycomb
“Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”
-- attributed to Benjamin Franklin, as he left Independence Hall after the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787,
It is obvious. They knew that it was up to us to fight for it. Instead, we are fighting for oil and world supremacy.
Recall that much of our early history was about if we should be more or less isolationish. About if we should seek any Imperialism. Obviously we have made many, many wrong choices along the way.
While I agree with part of your opinion, where have we "fought for oil" and "world supremacy?"
America is great because it IS supreme. Period. Find me another country better.
And are you going to say we went to Iraq for Oil? Show me where we took ONE DROP of oil, paid for or stolen.
America is great because 2 generations ago we had people inspire America to be great. Ever since, we have rested on our laurels. So much so that today, we have no space program to speak of. We are losing that edge because we are not inspired to be something great. Notice that as NASA died so did the math and science scores of our students nation wide. Doubtful a coincidence.
RE: Iraq and oil....we went to war with Iraq over their desire to stop trading for oil in US dollars. That is considered "economic warfare" in DC and cannot be tolerated. So no, oil may not have been a direct desire, but it was involved. That is, IF you believe that we haven't profited from it. If I recall, Haliburton has done mighty well working those Iraqi contracts. And that is just one company out of many.
RE: world surpremacy....are you serious? It would be easier if you just read "War is Racket" by Smedley Butler, the most decorated soldier in US history. I think his opinion not only carries weight, but is spot on. Our superiority is enforced.
RE: finding a better country....measuring the lesser of two evils seems to be an American past time. Just look at what our electoral process has devolved to. Besides, as Einstein once said, "Nationalism is no different than racism." And, as Ben Franklin said, "Where liberty is, there is my country."
edit on 4-10-2012 by bigfatfurrytexan because: (no reason given)