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Originally posted by FissionSurplus
Wow....such pissiness coming from the "everybody should vote" crowd.
Their argument seems to be premised on the guilt factor. NOWHERE in their argument do they address the things the non-voters are concerned about: The manipulation, the computers replacing paper ballots, the counting of the votes, not in public view, but in secret, and the fact that we resent being told we only have two choices, when we know darn well there are more than two.
If we say we are going to vote third party, then we get the "you're wasting your vote", or "you're going to give the election to X, because you're taking the votes away from Y"...etc., etc., blah blah blah.
If y'all are trying to get people to vote based on guilt, it won't work.
Can somebody on ATS give a succinct, truthful, and heartfelt reason why those of us who are angry and disenfranchised should vote, without the nastiness and pettiness this thread has brought out? I would welcome something intelligent. Saying the system works, while we see the sorry state everything is in, and the past election frauds, won't cut it.
Bring it on, pro-voters. Explain to me why, knowing what I know and feeling as I do, why I should participate in something that is basically already pre-determined, secretive and manipulated?edit on 4-10-2012 by FissionSurplus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by happyzodiac
Just to let you all know that the last Presidential election I voted for Ron Paul. I am a registered Democrat but I changed who I wanted to be the next president. Needless to say when I pulled the lever it didn't registered. How I know this is because the person standing on the outside said that he (I) was voting Republican and they have to reset the buttons again. How how did he know that I voted Republican unless they knew that would happen if you changed parties. I didn't say anything to them after I voted but I sure gave them a look. I am sure they saw me and they didn't look to me after I left. Something very fishy and I am sure the same will happen this election as well. The votes are rigged. Yes indeed.
An independent voter, those who register as an unaffiliated voter in the United States, is a voter of a democratic country who does not align him- or herself with a political party. An Independent is variously defined as a voter who votes for candidates and issues rather than on the basis of a political ideology or partisanship; a voter who does not have long-standing loyalty to, or identification with, a political party; a voter who does not usually vote for the same political party from election to election; or a voter who self-describes as an independent.
Originally posted by justwokeup
That way you are exercising your civic duty by going to the station but proclaiming that neither candidate is worthy of support. Write in 'none of the above'.