Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
At around 3:48 he starts repeating the same uninformed nonsense about Allah being the moon god. I think I can see where its going.
Hey Hal, just what kind of a moon god prohibits the worship of the moon?
edit on 4-10-2012 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
LOL, here we go again. It is not uninformed. And yes, Mohammed did indicate the moon god was allah. Let me show you the Quran verses that prove
Sahih International Surah 2:163 And your god is one God. There is no deity [worthy of worship] except Him, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially
The word god, when it is lower-case means.....
God 1:A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the
universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions. 2:The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being. 3:A
being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or
reality. 4:An image of a supernatural being; an idol. 5:One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed 6: A very handsome man. 7:A powerful ruler or
So let's dissect the ayat, shall we?
The Quran says "this god"...in this instance because the word is lower-case indicates it is an idol. Then the Quran says "is God"...therefore because
there was a god (an idol) that was specifically pointed to, that means whoever wrote that Ayat believed that idol should be God.
I want you to notice in the surah...in this ayat, it does not say Allah, and yet Allah is mentioned in Surah 2:158
Sahih International Surah 2:158 Indeed, as-Safa and al-Marwah are among the symbols of Allah . So whoever makes Hajj to the House or performs
'umrah - there is no blame upon him for walking between them. And whoever volunteers good - then indeed, Allah is appreciative and Knowing.
Hmm, why would the writer here mention symbols of Allah, then not say Allah is God in Ayat 163?
Symbol 1:Something that represents something else by association, resemblance, or convention, especially a material object used to represent
something invisible. 2: A printed or written sign used to represent an operation, element, quantity, quality, or relation, as in mathematics or
music. 3: Psychology An object or image that an individual unconsciously uses to represent repressed thoughts, feelings, or impulses: a phallic
Oh, so the mountains Safa and Marwa represents allah by association, resemblance or convention? That's what the pagans believed, so why keep the
association? Why? Because god was an idol.
The writer of the ayat does indeed indicate that an idol is the God of the Quran. Which of these idols do you suppose it could be? BTW, Hubal was
smashed 8 years after the flight (emigration, or running away from Mecca) to Medina and returning to Mecca. 8 years after Mohammed claimed
prophethood, then he had issues with Hubal. Why take that long?
I didn't write the Quran, so it is not my fault it is there. Uthman is responsible for the Quran in its present form, soooooooo, maybe Uthman was an
Bukhari: vol. 6, hadith 514, p. 482; book 61 Narrated Umar bin Al-Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim reciting Surat Al-Furqan
during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle and I listen to his recitation and noticed that he recited in several different ways which Allah's Apostle had
not taught me. I was about to jump over him during his prayer, but I controlled my temper and when he had completed his prayer, I put his upper
garment around his neck and seized him by it and said, "Who taught you this Surat which I heard you reciting ?" He replied, "Allah's Apostle taught it
to me". I said, "You have told a lie, for Allah's Apostle taught it to me in a different way from yours". So I dragged him to Allah's Apostle and
said, "I heard this person reciting Surat Al-Furqan in a way which you haven't taught me!". On that Allah's Apostle said, "Release him (Umar) recite,
O Hisham!" Then he recited in the same way I heard him reciting. Then Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way", and added, "Recite, O
Umar", I recited it as he had taught me. Allah's Apostle then said, "It was revealed in this way. This Qur'an has been revealed to be recited in seven
different ways, so recite of it whichever is easier for you."
Now I have to ask, does the Quran say Uthman's is the only acceptable Quran?
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