Big Cats and Black Cats in Kentucky., page 1


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Topic started on 4-10-2012 @ 05:15 AM by RebelPanda
Panthers, Cougars, Jaguars or what ever you want to call them are often seen in the Hills of Kentucky and surrounding states. It is fact that Cougars used to roam the area, but they are no long sense extinct. According to the KY Fish and Wildlife they are extinct but according to some locals and urban legends they are still roaming these hills.
The Wampus Cat is part of the folklore, a supernatural half woman half cougar black cat beast of death.
I pay little attention to that.
So here is my Stories
Years ago my father bought some land in Southern Kentucky near Dale Hollow. Perfect little camping and fishing spot. About two years ago this old fella, whom is a bit... unbalanced and doesn't have good eye sight(But he is honest) told me and my father about the big black cat he seen. We just laughed and went on our way thinking he had just terrible vision... which he does. We then found ourselves talking to a farmer down the road who proceeded to tell us about the big cat and told us to watch out. Still just didn't put to much thought into it. It was spring time, black bear have returned to the area, I just figured they misidentified a hungry, skinny, young black bear coming out of hibernation.

Well this year, this past summer, my father and a few others were camping (Sadly I was working or otherwise I would be on the news holding up a dead black cat with a bullet wound... yes I would have shot it, no body no case.) He said he awoke in the morning got out of the tent. He and his girl friend could see this big black cat watching them from a near by hill. Now I have no reason not to believe my father... still maybe leaning towards bear, or if it is a big black cat it must have escaped or been released.

Now talking to a fella at work about this he proceeded to tell me a story. Which I can believe because I have heard similar stories and actually seen a convening tail cam shot of one in Boston Kentucky. Supposedly rumors are floating around fish and wildlife to be on the look out for cougars. Some believe the population is slowly returning. A Game warden told me they actually set some traps out in Pikeville Kentucky, and in Cumberland Country. A State Trooper has reportedly seen one, and there have been some interesting photos. Hopefully I can find time, and get ahold of my buddy and see if he still has the photo.

... I'd much rather come across a bear than a cougar. Hopefully some of you all have some insight, debate, and or well evidence.


reply posted on 4-10-2012 @ 06:08 AM by radarloveguy
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I live in oztralia , where none of these big cats have lived since prehistory.

I own a small yacht and was trailing it home , through some large pine forests , north of here..
As the sun set .I took a small sandy track and stopped for the night in a very remote locale , alone .
It's semi tropical here , so I left the windows down , and the rear hatchback open , and slept in the passenger seat
for the night .
Around 2 a.m I was woken by the whole car shaking , and looking back at the boat , I was amazed at a very large , panther like cat , standing over 6 feet on it's hind legs , clawing at the cooler chest in the boat that contained fish bait.
It saw me , and stopped it's activity , at which point I froze and tried to look inconspicuous .
A couple of minutes later I peered cautiously out the open passenger window , and staring straight back at me was
, yes , a black panther ! , about 3 inches away ! The window sill is over 3 feet from the ground , and it was on all fours.
I stayed calm , and waited till dawn .
I exited the vehicle and watched it stroll away into the distance .
So yes , they are around , even here , .... and they must be breeding , it was only a young cat.
I left the bait , (sardines ) , and took my leave .
Some say , escaped circus animals , some say army mascots , most say OMG !!!!


edit on 4-10-2012 by radarloveguy because: furreal



reply posted on 4-10-2012 @ 09:50 PM by generik
the big cats may be being stocked by the government.

i was told about one farmer in Ontario that was having livestock killed, thinking it was a coyote (which have been increasing in numbers enough that they are killing a lot of cattle), that he had a gun ready to protect his livestock. well sure enough the sound of cattle in distress were heard, and he located and fired on the predator that was attacking. he got himself a wildcat. so he called up the SPCA (animal control) who told him that there were no wildcats, and treated him as if he were pranking them. well a few days later a ministry of natural resources person showed up to his door demanding his guns and presenting him with a fine. when asked how they knew he had killed a wildcat, considering the SPCA didn't believe him, he was informed that it had a tracking device and it showed it had been killed on the farmer's land. apparently the ministry of natural resources had restocked the wildcat population without telling anyone, and were a bit upset that a farmer killed one. the farmer went in and brought out a piece of paper and handed it to the MNR person. it was a bill for the cattle that had been killed. apparently the guy looked at it, and told the farmer to have a good day, and walked off.

i wonder how much "stocking" of predators has been going on behind everyone's backs. since both coyotes and fishers (
en.wikipedia.org...(animal) ) have suddenly seemed to have had population explosions, that are causing farmers problems. one relative has said that he has to keep his pregnant cows locked up in a barn until they calve, as the coyotes are numerous enough that they will attack almost as soon as a calf hits the ground.

coyotes are even becoming a problem in Toronto and surrounding cities, especially in the lean winter months killing pets. i know where i live i hear them constantly and that is within city limits. we also have a lot of deer, and fox that i also see walking on our driveway.


reply posted on 4-10-2012 @ 10:20 PM by Asktheanimals
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The coyotes are one of the reasons for stocking bobcats and fishers to their former environment. The coyotes have no competition so their numbers have exploded but it is causing farmers some problems. It's just an old problem that they'll have to relearn how to deal with. Extirpating one species can only lead to others filling the void.


reply posted on 4-10-2012 @ 10:44 PM by generik
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
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post by generik



The coyotes are one of the reasons for stocking bobcats and fishers to their former environment. The coyotes have no competition so their numbers have exploded but it is causing farmers some problems. It's just an old problem that they'll have to relearn how to deal with. Extirpating one species can only lead to others filling the void.


farmers don't need help dealing with coyotes from other predators that kill livestock. instead of releasing animals that will do as much if not more harm to farms, they should look at other options like mules, or donkies (can't remember which). are apparently great at killing coyotes, another thing they could do is a culling of the overpopulation of coyotes, just as they will likely end up having to do with wildcats and fishers. fishers are already as much of a problem as the coyotes are.
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