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Originally posted by Kryties
No offense mate but you are showing a clear anti-mother stance. You have accused others of being sexist, yet that is exactly what you are doing yourself.
Originally posted by oasisjack
Italian courts will generally choose their country men over any other nationality no matter what the evidence shows just ask amanda knox.
Originally posted by Annee
I only presented a possible logical alternative viewpoint.
You're the woman hater blaming everything on the woman.
Originally posted by smilesmcgee
reply to post by ollncasino
The kids don't care what is legal.. they want to be with their mother because of that special bond. Kids are adaptable.
That being said, it is probably better for them to be with the father at this point.
But I forsee a lot of resentment from the children towards the father for forcing them to leave mom behind.
I don't blame them.. I'd rather live in Austrailia over Italy as well.
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by Annee
I only presented a possible logical alternative viewpoint.
You're the woman hater blaming everything on the woman.
I take it the female Australian judge who agrees with my assessment is a women hater as well?
Originally posted by Annee
Yeah - kinda what I was thinking. I wasn't being sexist - - - more old world culture.
Originally posted by Kryties
Don't fall for it mate - a certain poster is trying to paint others as sexist in order to cover up his/her own sexist views on this subject.
It's as clear as day to me, and extremely poor form.
Originally posted by ollncasino
It isn't about sexism.
Originally posted by Kryties
Don't fall for it mate - a certain poster is trying to paint others as sexist in order to cover up his/her own sexist views on this subject.
It's as clear as day to me, and extremely poor form.
Originally posted by ollncasino
If you prefer to see this case as turning on sexism rather than the best interests of the children, then so be it. I however respectfully disagree.
Originally posted by Gridrebel
Gotta go with the girls on this. HIDING from their father??? Proof of physical abuse.....hmmmm.....seems the court might be wrong on this. I tell you what, I was raised in foster care since the age of three. The court was wrong MANY times!
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by Gridrebel
Gotta go with the girls on this. HIDING from their father??? Proof of physical abuse.....hmmmm.....seems the court might be wrong on this. I tell you what, I was raised in foster care since the age of three. The court was wrong MANY times!
Courts can be wrong but I'm not sure the wrong decision has been made in this case.
The mother hid the children with their maternal grandmother in contravention of an Australian court order to return them.
The Australian court found that the girls had initially stated their desire to return to their father in Italy. Furthermore the court also found that only after they had been influenced by their mother and those around them did they no longer wish to return to their father.
The court also found that the girls loved their father.
Originally posted by Kryties
What I said was: You are accusing others in this thread of being sexist and yet it is actually you who are being sexist and accusing others of it in order to cover that up - and failing dismally.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
Girls should be kept with their mothers, especially a girl at the very awkward age of 15, who is developing, most certainly should be, and is better off in Austrailia than the male dominated society of Italy.
Originally posted by Gridrebel
It appears you might have been wronged in a domestic dispute. You can't take it out on these girls.
Originally posted by Gridrebel
I loved my dad to pieces. I did NOT want to live with him. He was a drunk and a pervert. I STILL LOVED HIM.
Originally posted by Gridrebel
So the "dragged, kicking and screaming is ????? It appears you might have been wronged in a domestic dispute. You can't take it out on these girls. They loved their father, uum okay. That doesn't mean they want to live with him. All I'm saying is the hiding, the dragging, kicking and screaming says a lot. I loved my dad to pieces. I did NOT want to live with him. He was a drunk and a pervert. I STILL LOVED HIM.
Originally posted by ladyteeny
i think the point that most people are seeing here is that the girls choice, obvious choice, is to remain with their mother. they are all old enough to express their wishes. the fact that they've been clearly against going back to their father should be of paramount importance.