Video surfaces of SEN. Obama telling black audience slow Katrina aid was racism

reply to post by butcherguy


It isn't a black only college anymore, before it was, you know when America was still forcibly segregated. It was created for freed slaves after the civil war..... But it still has a mainly black student base. Does that bother you? Are you one of those people that cry about "BET"?

Sums it up;

Tuesday night they hyped a 2007 Barack Obama speech to a group of black ministers at Hampton University in Virginia, and they engaged in the most rancid racial fear-mongering I’ve seen in a long time. Hannity hailed the speech as “a glimpse into the mind of the real Barack Obama,” and he tried out his own black preacher voice for special effect. Carlson insisted Obama was preaching racial division to his black audience and sputtered, “This is not a dog whistle, this is a dog siren!”


Mainly, their complaint came down to: How dare a black president (or at the time, presidential candidate) talk to a black audience about black poverty and suffering! And the legacy of slavery, and the endurance of racism! Has he no shame?

There was absolutely nothing objectionable in Obama’s speech. (I watched the whole thing on the Daily Caller Web site, but I won’t link to it.) It made me proud to have a president who could speak with that complexity. If you know anything about his audience of African-American ministers, you could hear him at one point chiding them for their own divisions and competitiveness. It was a speech that preached personal responsibility as part of the answer to poverty.

www.salon.com...

Originally posted by LeatherNLace

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Uhhhh, the speech was given at a BLACK college. Hence the black audience......

Hampton University is a historically black and Native American university located in Hampton, Virginia, United States. It was founded by black and white leaders of the American Missionary Association after the American Civil War to provide education to freedmen.

en.wikipedia.org...

A black college?
Sounds racist to me.
Why are there 'black' colleges?

Historically black. Go look up any of these historically black colleges and look at the charter date. These colleges are historically black because they were established in a time when segregation was in full affect. Currently, these historically black colleges have other races among their student body and faculty.

Quit playing ignorant.

ETA:

Historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) are institutions of higher education in the United States that were established before 1964 with the intention of serving the black community.

en.wikipedia.org...

edit on 3-10-2012 by LeatherNLace because: (no reason given)

I'm not playing ignorant, I am pointing out hypocrisy.
I know about black colleges.
I have a racially diverse background, I'm not a 'purebred' anything. People need to be people, not a color, ethnic group or religion.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by butcherguy

 

It isn't a black only college anymore, before it was, you know when America was still forcibly segregated. It was created for freed slaves after the civil war..... But it still has a mainly black student base. Does that bother you? Are you one of those people that cry about "BET"?

I am a mongrel that the KKK complains about.
Black, American Indian and European.
I can still cry over people wanting to be 'special', as in race, creed and ethic background.

Don't really care about BET, if there is a market for it, sell it. I believe that if there was a WET, there would be a hue and cry from the hypocrites that don't mind that there is a BET.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by butcherguy

 

It isn't a black only college anymore, before it was, you know when America was still forcibly segregated. It was created for freed slaves after the civil war..... But it still has a mainly black student base. Does that bother you? Are you one of those people that cry about "BET"?

Yeah I see what you are saying, but there is more to it that you may be ignoring. It isn't as simple as Podium - Speech - majority black audience....

I will give you some carefully placed words - you will start to put those words together in your own mind - what you conclude is your interpretation that Florida is taken care of but New Orleans wasn't.... So he touts unfairness by word Smithing to a predominantly black audience...

And the accent?? This entire speech spews with ideology purpose.

He painted the picture using choice paint (a lot of "victim" paint being used) and now you draw the conclusion of this painting..

reply to post by FlyersFan

Originally posted by FlyersFan
In 2007 - Sen. Obama, who was born in Hawaii and raised overseas,

"Raised overseas"? Are you serious? He spent FOUR YEARS there.

Anyway, I quite liked this speech. Ignorance and desperation are rampant here these days.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by alternateuniverse

 

Get what facts straight? You're the one walking crooked. The speech had NOTHING to do with Katrina or politicizing it. It was about problems in the black community. You CLEARLY didn't listen.

RS if I may ask you this, I am interested to hear the opinion of a black man, how do you feel about Obama thinking he has to change his speech pattern when he is speaking to a black audience? Is it offensive to you, an intelligent black, man that he feels he can't speak to your people in an educated tone of voice?

reply to post by RealSpoke

It isn't a black only college anymore

I think that you were the one that referred to it being a black college first.
If it isn't a black college, why call it one?
'Historically' speaking, it was. Not now.
Just like slavery... was, not now.

Thunderheart

I agree!
But.... What if its the other way around? What if he did NOT change his speech pattern at this lecture? He is speaking in his natural accent and changed it to a none slang and more educated tone for and during the presidential election and during his presidency? We really don't know right?

reply to post by RealSpoke

He says one thing out of one side of his mouth .. and then later says another thing out the other side ... In this case, he spoke out of one side of his mouth to a black audience using a fake southern black accent and heavily insinuating racism on the part of the government. He panders to whoever is listening to him ... typical politician.

How many threads are going to be started on this same thread? Duplicate thread, duplicate response.

He is calling out Bush's response to New Orleans. Everyone knows that Bush screwed up, everyone knows that it was predominately blacks that were in need of help in New Orleans. This is nothing new, the Right is just hoping people forgot all about it. This video isn't even new, it was reported on in 2007. It was a non-issue then, it is a non-issue now.

There is no racism by calling out racism, this is a twisted lie that racist people tell themselves. If you believe Obama made a racist statement, please quote it.

I hope Romney tries to use this video, it will sink his campaign even more by making him look like a racists by trying to call out Obama for talking to the black community and the problems it faces.

This is just anti-Obama porn. People that hate Obama will think this is the worse thing in the world and will rage over it. Normal people will wonder what the hell those people are mad at.


Again, if anyone wants to quote the increadibly racist and outrageous thing Obama said, please do so.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Uhhhh, the speech was given at a BLACK college. Hence the black audience......

en.wikipedia.org...

That seems to be true that he is addressing all black audience but he is definitely rubbing it in when he indicated "that all the hurricane did was took away the screen". Sorta putting more fuel on the fire or salt on the wound without a doubt. Thats what politicians do to win the votes for their parties though he was not a presidential candidate. Perhaps he was fishing for just that (assessing the political arena) before being nominated for the presidency the next year.

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What was objectionable in Obama's inflammatory speech? How about his fake accent that he turned on for 40 plus minutes for starters. That's just humorous and should be insulting to those in the crowd.

Then come the facts.... Facts which then Senator Obama KNEW and completely ignored in order to fuel the fire and pour some salt into some healing wounds. Obama spread lies about the Katrina Funding and the Stafford Act Period!!

The Katrina ravaged area (Not Just New Orleans why do people think that Katrina only hit N.O.) received Stafford Waivers and $110 Billion dollars in Federal Funds including $6.9 billion with no strings attached....

FACT

One thing that is not new here is the president’s penchant for lying whenever it suits his purposes. As both Fox and the Daily Caller point out, six months before this speech, the federal government had already sent approximately $110 billion to areas damaged by Katrina. Furthermore, the federal government did waive the Stafford Act on several occasions during its reconstruction efforts. And the Bush administration also sent an additional $6.9 billion to Katrina-effected areas–with no strings attached. Senator Obama undoubtedly knew about all of it, yet he apparently wasn’t going to let the truth get in the way of a good speech.

Many have dubbed Obama as the "Chameleon" and they are spot on .... Which Obama should we trust and which Obama should we believe. In 2008 most of America thought they were voting for the man who a delivered a very powerful and inspirational speech in 2004. That whole speech was pure BS when compared to this 2007 speech. Then, in 2008 in an effort to save his ass, he delivers the famous speech in which he throws his beloved pastor (as described in the 2007 speech) under the bus. Yet another contrasting speech. 3 key speeches that contradict themselves...

By any reasonable assessment, the Hampton University speech is miles away from Obama’s speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention that catapulted him to national prominence. With an eye to the national stage, Obama said, “The pundits, the pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states and blue states,” and further that we are “one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.” Except when the president is dividing us by race and class in order to win an election.

Some commentators have already assailed the President as an unprincipled chameleon, saying what he thinks his audience wants to hear. For instance, Obama began his speech with “a special shout out” to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who had already become a controversy at the time. He praised Wright as “my pastor, the guy who puts up with me, counsels me, listens to my wife complain about me. He’s a friend and a great leader. Not just in Chicago, but all across the country.” But soon after, when that friend and great leader finally became a political liability due to his overtly racist worldview, Obama was able to distance himself from Wright, amazingly using his 2008 speech about race as a vehicle. And once again, just as in 2004, the president was hailed by the media as a uniter, a post-racial vision of the future — only a short time after he parroted the deeply divisive and hateful views of Jeremiah Wright.

A chameleon though he may be, this does not change what we know for certain about Obama’s radical past, in which frequent off-script imbroglios fit perfectly. Thus it was important, as Hannity noted in his opening segment, to hammer home the point that Obama’s ability to have it both ways — to cast himself as a “pragmatic uniter” while espousing the ideology of Jeremiah Wright, Derrick Bell, Saul Alinsky and Communist operative Frank Marshall Davis — is only possible because of a mainstream media more than willing to let him get away with it. To add insult to injury, as the Caller reveals in a separate story, the Democratic National Committee was working with tweets from reporters at organizations including Politico, BuzzFeed, The Huffington Post, The New York Times, New York Magazine and the Atlantic, to discredit the Hampton University video before it was aired.

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Which Obama do you believe and trust? I think the only Obama that I can believe is the 2007 Obama. The divisive Obama, the Obama who faithfully followed Rev. Wright and his Black Liberation Theology, The Obama who lectured on Critical Race Theory, as taught to him by Derrick Bell, while on the Faculty at the University of Chicago, The Obama who perfected the manipulation of Affirmative Action programs to advance his career, The Obama who manipulated and used the poor electorate in his former Chicago District to advance his own career, ...

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by butcherguy

 

It isn't a black only college anymore, before it was, you know when America was still forcibly segregated. It was created for freed slaves after the civil war..... But it still has a mainly black student base. Does that bother you? Are you one of those people that cry about "BET"?

There is a lack of diversity and typically this is decried by the Democrats and the left. For whatever reason we're supposed to come up with rationalization to excuse this behavior when anyone but white people do it.

Originally posted by detachedindividual
Is this really thread-worthy?

Yes.

We know all politicians pander to their audience. Y

Sure. I've said they all do. And this is one more example of that.

you think Romney standing on a podium and disowning 47% of the American people as worthless is anything less than pandering to the right-wing elites funding his performance?

1 - Romney didn't say that 47% of the people are 'worthless'. He said he wouldnt' bother trying to get their vote because they probably already made up their minds to vote for the 'freebies' that Obama was going to provide.

2 - There are plenty of threads discussing what Romney said about 47%. What does that have to do with Obama and this subject? Answer - nothing.

You really think the same response would have been given to Texas?

Lets say Katrina was going to hit Houston .... Houston didn't have an idiot like (D) Ray Nagin in office as Mayor of the city. Texas didn't have an idiot gov. (D) Kathleen Blanco rejecting federal help until it was too late. The response in Texas would have been different because the people running Texas would have been different.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Sums it up;

Tuesday night they hyped a 2007 Barack Obama speech to a group of black ministers at Hampton University in Virginia, and they engaged in the most rancid racial fear-mongering I’ve seen in a long time. Hannity hailed the speech as “a glimpse into the mind of the real Barack Obama,” and he tried out his own black preacher voice for special effect. Carlson insisted Obama was preaching racial division to his black audience and sputtered, “This is not a dog whistle, this is a dog siren!”


Mainly, their complaint came down to: How dare a black president (or at the time, presidential candidate) talk to a black audience about black poverty and suffering! And the legacy of slavery, and the endurance of racism! Has he no shame?

There was absolutely nothing objectionable in Obama’s speech. (I watched the whole thing on the Daily Caller Web site, but I won’t link to it.) It made me proud to have a president who could speak with that complexity. If you know anything about his audience of African-American ministers, you could hear him at one point chiding them for their own divisions and competitiveness. It was a speech that preached personal responsibility as part of the answer to poverty.

www.salon.com...

This is such a joke. If a white president gave this kind of speech to white people and fear mongering about black people out to get them, you and the people dismissing this speech would be up in arms. We all know it. Now you're posting links to well known Obama lap dogs who spin the racism of their president in a positive light.

We're not all brain dead zombies you know?

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Compare his 2004 DNC speech to this 2007 speech. Then add in his 2008 speech in which he backed his campaign bus over his beloved Rev. Wright. The same Reverend who Obama gushed over in the opening of this 2007 speech.

Which speech do you like best?? Which Obama do you prefer?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
"Raised overseas"?

Are you serious? He spent FOUR YEARS there.

He was born in Hawaii. He spent formative years overseas. There was no way he could develop a southern black accent. You know exactly what the point is. It's a fake accent to pander to the black crowd.

Anyway, I quite liked this speech.

Of course you would.

Ignorance and desperation are rampant here these days.

Ignorance and desperation? Yep. I see it with O-bots covering for their buddy Obama all the time. Fortunately this thread isn't an example of ATS ignorance or desperation. (except perhaps ignorance on the part of Obama himself).

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

Originally posted by FlyersFan
In 2007 - Sen. Obama, who was born in Hawaii and raised overseas,

"Raised overseas"?

Are you serious? He spent FOUR YEARS there.

Anyway, I quite liked this speech.

Ignorance and desperation are rampant here these days.

Some people think that early childhood has some very formative years. I tend to agree.

WHO Early Childhood development

reply to post by PvtHudson


It is only acceptable if a Democrat shows racism, If a Republican did it they would be forced to resign. Incredibly Democrats created the KKK and the only Congressmen that were KKK members were Democrats. The two parties have to play by different rules.