Originally posted by AfterInfinity
So you're saying that because of the Christian mindset, anyone who isn't Christian won't be seen as equals, so will be treated as inferior...and my
post is inapplicable?
Oh no...not at all. I personally think your post is absolutely applicable and I wouldn't ever suggest that ALL christians are hypocrites and think
that they are inherently superior and more righteous than their atheist neighbors. Unfortunatley, there seem to b enough christians like some of those
we have seen in this thread running around to have had a significantly detrimental impact on humanity throughout history...a trend which continues and
accelerates and this very day.
I really don't care what ANYBODY "believes" or doesn't believe...so long as it doesn't start having really, REALLY detrimental effects upon the
people who think differently. When religion is used a justification or partial justification for harsh criminal punishments...I object. That goes
for BOTH Sharia Law and posting the 10 Commandments in court houses. You know...why the 10 commandments? Why not a bunch of New Testament "turn the
other cheek" and "cast the first stone" type of a message? Sure...punitive amputation takes the cake in terms of shock value and barbarity...but
is it really any more humane to convict 18 year old kids of felonies for having a bag of grass or even stealing a car?. Sure...you avoid the
exquisite pain of having your hand lopped off...but you trade it for a lifetime of quiet misery and suffering of perpetual institutionally sanctioned
You see...it starts with something like the 10 Commandments in court that might seem theoretically wrong to an atheist...but aside from a few Bill
Maher comedy routines in the '90's we thought we would all be polite and just let the bible-thumpers have their way. After all...it's not an
actual change to the LAWS or anything...right?
Then a few years later we do a double-take when a whole lot of these same people want to start teaching creationism or "intelligent design" in
science classrooms. We politely nod our heads and try to tell them we "understand"...but you see...we have a separation of church of state and this
is simply not acceptable in a public school system.
Then a few years after that we wind up w/ a PRESIDENT who quite literally claims that "god talks to him", invokes the Divine Right of Kings to
justify his opinions, and wages a series of WARS based upon "beliefs" instead of evidence, and REFERS TO THEM AS BEING A "CRUSADE". Because of
our silence and deference to these christian extremists ONE MILLION or so innocent civilians died and we ran our country into financial ruin.
we have good ol' Chuckie Fuqua in Arkansas who stated that he wants to roll out capital punishment for "unruly" teenagers in his
book. Guess what the title of that book is? ""God's Law: The Only Political Solution"
. "Only Political Solution" has an uncanny
similarity to "Final Solution"...doesn't it? And that's not as alarmist or hyperbolic as it seems given that that good Pastor Charles Morley just
recently advocated putting homosexuals in CONCENTRATION CAMPS...just like Hitler QUITE LITERALLY did. The scariest part? HE GOT A STANDING
So what...we should just stand by idly and let this insanity
continue unchecked until a few kids really ARE killed in Arkansas for the
"crime" of getting knocked up, being gay when mom and dad said "no", or staying out past curfew? Bullsh^t...this nonsense has GOT to stop...and
Now, in fairness, I didn't hear any of the christians in this thread come out and agree w/ good ol' Fuqua. However the don't really need to.
Ideologically speaking they are in the same ballpark. We both heard truejew and borntowatch cite numerous times and in numerous ways that morality
comes from "god" and that the bible ought to be interpreted literally. Borntowatch came flat-out and stated that the "unicorns" in the bible were
a MISTRANSLATION...then proceeded to argue that the Hebrews were really talking about a rhinoceros...EVEN AFTER HE STATED THAT IT
HAVE BEEN TRANSLATED AS "UNICORN"!! WTF!!! THIS SH^T IS GETTING DANGEROUS.
This is what happens when somebody STARTS OUT with the equation:
"Word of God" = Morality = Perfection + ᴟ > Anything Anybody Else Thinks, Does, or Says
Even when they outright ADMIT that their religious text is wrong, they still
try to argue that it's "correct". For years I've always
tried to take the high road w/ the church-folk and calmly explain to them that atheists really DO have morals, aren't serial killers, and haven't
put a "hex on America. But what have we gotten in return? A Religious Right that just keeps advocating policy that is sounding more and more like
the Taliban every single day, executions and all.
I'm just really starting to wonder if Appeasment is still a viable strategy