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Originally posted by rtyfx
reply to post by truejew
Obama claims to be Christian.
I'm not judging. I'm stating my opinion. Even if I was judging, who cares?
"Born" seems to feel himself in a superior position to atheists because he believes. He isn't. We all sit to take a crap.
If he wants to feel superior maybe he should hang out with a few jailhouse Christians for a while, gain a little perspective.
No one is above anyone else in this place. We are all animals in a zoo.
Originally posted by borntowatch
You denied the existence of one horned animals, that in itself was funny, and then proven wrong.
and now I see why you are so angry, I re read that post, I tore your fairys and unicorn dreams to shreds.
I recommend other atheists read that post and stay away from such silly arguments as the one you proposed in future duicussions.
Originally posted by borntowatch
oh and by the way, your post you linked held nothing to justify the facts you claim.
edit on 16-10-2012 by borntowatch because: (no reason given)
I dont want to feel superior, I just dont want to believe what you believe, maybe you should hang around a few jailhouse atheists and see what life is really about.
Originally posted by borntowatch
I dont want to feel superior, I just dont want to believe what you believe, maybe you should hang around a few jailhouse atheists and see what life is really about.
If indeed I have no right to judge you, what right have atheists to judge me?
The question still stands
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
We're hurting our own brothers and sisters.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
So you're saying that because of the Christian mindset, anyone who isn't Christian won't be seen as equals, so will be treated as inferior...and my post is inapplicable?
Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
Originally posted by darkbake
Originally posted by ANOK
To think someone can't have morals, and know what is right or wrong, without believing in God is simply ridiculous.
That is correct. In fact, healthy values are more likely to be found through scientific study and critical thinking than through mystical mandates.edit on 4-10-2012 by darkbake because: (no reason given)
This is half true. Fasting, which is quite opposite of what modern science tells us is healthy, actually promotes health. I am not arguing that scientific studies do not prove healthy values because it sometimes does and ignorant to not think so, but some mystical mandates such as fasting also provide healthy benefits. Science and spirituality can go hand in hand.edit on 4-10-2012 by DelayedChristmas because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by promenion
Just my .02 cents. Every Atheist I have ever met always and I mean always brings up Christianity and insults it, is always offensive and very rude, but somehow is afraid to insult Islam, wonder why?
Well...lets fix that problem for you. I'm an atheist and I think christians and muslims are equally insane.
There. Now you've met an atheist who doesn't discriminate against you as you claim they do.
Happy now?
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by promenion
Morals are imposed by society and not religion
You don't need a belief in god to act morally and not kill/hurt people...
Originally posted by promenion
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by promenion
Morals are imposed by society and not religion
You don't need a belief in god to act morally and not kill/hurt people...
I don't think you understood what I wrote, Morals & Values are because of religion. And how to live and rules you got from 10 Commandments=Religion.
edit on 20-10-2012 by promenion because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by promenion
The Ten Commandments came from Moses, right?
Moses was a murderer, who killed an Egyptian soldier. He knew it was wrong and the Egyptians knew it was wrong, and he was on the run.
The Code of Hannarabi, the biblical text which gives us "an eye for and eye," along with the flood mythology, came out of ancient Babylon, which pre-dated Moses.
So, between the Egyptians and the Babylonians, we know that laws, values and morals existed before biblical times. Christianity nor Judaism hold the mortgage on ethics, morals or values. The society in which one belongs to does.
Originally posted by promenion
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by promenion
The Ten Commandments came from Moses, right?
Moses was a murderer, who killed an Egyptian soldier. He knew it was wrong and the Egyptians knew it was wrong, and he was on the run.
The Code of Hannarabi, the biblical text which gives us "an eye for and eye," along with the flood mythology, came out of ancient Babylon, which pre-dated Moses.
So, between the Egyptians and the Babylonians, we know that laws, values and morals existed before biblical times. Christianity nor Judaism hold the mortgage on ethics, morals or values. The society in which one belongs to does.
The way society is and behaves is due to religion, in Christian (majority) countries you don't see beheadings and pouring acid on women's faces or suicide bombers blowing up children, in Islamic countries its part of their society, which Was shaped according to their religion-Islam.
Because of Christianity, because of 10 Commandments given to Moses, we have rules, we known those rules are good, their not evil, they don't tell us to kill or pour acid on women, they are simple rules to live by. Religion is great, Jesus spoke the truth, people are wrong. And I don't expect anyone to believe in anything, but if everyone lived by the 10 Commandments we'd have a much safer and peaceful world.
Native American Quotes About Land Ownership
"Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children." --Ancient Indian Proverb
"The American Indian is of the soil, whether it be the region of forests, plains, pueblos, or mesas. He fits into the landscape, for the hand that fashioned the continent also fashioned the man for his surroundings. He once grew as naturally as the wild sunflowers, he belongs just as the buffalo belonged..." --Luther Standing Bear
"What is this you call property? It cannot be the earth, for the land is our mother, nourishing all her children, beasts, birds, fish and all men. The woods, the streams, everything on it belongs to everybody and is for the use of all. How can one man say it belongs only to him?" -Massasoit
"One does not sell the land people walk on." --Crazy Horse
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If believing in nothing as Atheists do, or that human beings are just a piece of meat, then why care if they die, go hungry, starve, why care about war where millions of pieces of meat get slaughtered. Stalin, an atheist, murdered millions of people, more of his own people than anyone on Earth, burned churches, killed priests, sent women and children to Gulags. You see, being an Atheist or having one as a leader is very dangerous because he has nothing to live for or fear of being wrong and or murdering millions of people, why care about people? do I care how bacon feels?
God gave humanity free will, its your responsibility to live your life, to experience hard times, to fight for what you believe is right, to pursue happiness. Jesus was right and told the truth.