Originally posted by milominderbinder

Originally posted by rtyfx
You mock because you have nothing more constructive to say.

You could be a true Christian and provide quotes from the Bible to back up your belief that you have the right to judge atheists. Instead you call into question quotes posted by others and claim they're out of context and that we don't understand them. If that is the case then explain them to us quote by quote.

This isn't a competition. It isn't a game to see who gets in the last clever jibe. Discuss the issue like adults, like true Christians would.

edit on 10/15/2012 by rtyfx because: (no reason given)

HA! In borntowatch's defense I would assert that he is discussing it just like a "true christian" would. With a whole of overly generalized blanket statements that cannot be backed up by the religious text which he has not ever read...or at the very best by picking and choosing the passages he wishes to pay attention to and ignoring the one's that conflict with whatever it is he wishes "god said" about things today.

I've never met a christian who has been able to do anything more.

Ha, talk about discussing things like a true atheist, a cut and past menagerie without any proof or explanation of how you come to your comprehension of your understandings explaining what the text states.
You are kidding yourself if you think you understand any of those statements.
Thats quote mining

You picked and chose passages out of context to justify your position.
This is the internet...search...you dont care so why should I bother.

Originally posted by milominderbinder

Originally posted by borntowatch
I never called atheism a seething pit of hypocrisy

Understand just that one simple point, I just posed a question.

A simple yes, no or maybe would have been sufficient, rather than the hissy fit fest we have here

Really? So you were just looking for a one word answer without any supporting evidence? Why didn't you just specify that it was only a poll then and you were not interested in anybody's rationale?

You know what I think? I think you are just a little irked that I ACTUALLY supplied you with hundreds biblical passages which illustrate just how immensely hypocritical christians are and that this makes you uncomfortable.

How come both you and truejew were BOTH demanding that everyone back up their assertions about christianity w/ "scripture" in this thread...right up until somebody actually did back it up with scripture?? Why were you so eager to cite your own sources when you still thought that a Shinto was a Buddhist...but now state that you just wanted "yes and no" answers?

As soon as the "scripture" disagreed with what you WISHED it stated instead of what it ACTUALLY states you all of a sudden "don't have time to read through all that" and revert to just overly generalized blanket statements like "you don't understand the context" which are wholly and completely unsubstantiated by anything other than your opinion. What gives?

When other people did the same exact thing...you kept demanding to "see the Scripture". Isn't it kind of hypocritical/b] to alternately demand Scripture then refuse to acknowledge it based solely upon what is convenient for you? What's wrong? Are you disappointed that somebody actually took the time to do it and call you out on it?

Another hissy fit
You quote mine scripture out of context, its a
cut and paste job from some fundamentalist atheist rant site and tell me its accurate, you cant be that silly, you cant believe all those one paragraph texts stand alone
Surely?

You copied and pasted all that and then say you understand it all.

You would be laughing at yourself, would a sane person refute your ignorance. No thanks

I'm beginning to understand why I was attacked for wading into this thread. I thought it was a civil discussion, this being ATS and all.

Do things have to be so nasty between believers and non-believers all the time?

Originally posted by milominderbinder

And the most hilarious part of this all? Borntowatch comes out and states outright that the word "unicorn" was mistranslated...but then proceeds to try to build a case for the rhino and "all of the other one-horned animals" as being possible candidates for the mythical "unicorn"....thereby invalidating his argument that "unicorn" was a mistranslation and postulating that the Hebrews WERE INDEED talking about some kind of one-horned animal...even if our own mental image of a one-horned magical horsey isn't what they meant.

You denied the existence of one horned animals, that in itself was funny, and then proven wrong.
I dont know what it was, never made a suggestion.

Its all in your head.

Originally posted by borntowatch
You copied and pasted all that and then say you understand it all.

You would be laughing at yourself, would a sane person refute your ignorance. No thanks

Incorrect. I copied and pasted it so save a little time typing and a whole bunch of time by utilizing a search engine to filter out the results I was seeking instead of manually paging through paper text one page at a time.

I understand it because I have read the entire bible from cover to cover. Twice. And the same with the Qu'ran. In addition, I have also read a NUMBER of books which analyze both as a professional historian would. Not that this should be a big surprise...it was part of my required coursework to get my Master's Degree in history.

While I certainly do not have these religious texts committed to memory verbatim, I feel as though I have a good, strong grasp of what they say...context and all...as well as the historical events which were occurring at the time of them being written, compiled, recompiled, edited, embellished, recompiled, and re-edited over the last 1700-ish years since they were first put together in a single volume that we refer to today as "the bible".

However...I really wish you wouldn't view it as "refuting my (alleged) ignorance". Think of it more as "spreading the word" and "sharing the good news". Above all else, I am an excellent student and painstakingly detailed scholar.

Please, PLEEEAASE, take the time to share with me and the rest of the thread just precisely where you feel I'm "not understanding the context". If you have such strong evidence of where I have erred...why not try to show me the error of my ways? What about your fellow Christians for that matter? Are you saying that you are OK with Crossway Bibles and the Good News Publishers, Inc. misleading the millions of good, honest, christian folks out there who have bought their bibles?

Wouldn't you kind of have...well...a moral duty of sorts to ensure that God's Word is being accurately shared throughout the world to both His believers and non-believers alike? After all...you stated just a few posts ago that Morality comes FROM God...thus would it not be immoral to willfully turn away someone asking you for clarification of His word?

Please. Share with all of us. Show us the error of our ways. Please explain how the 100+ biblical passages about how christians shouldn't judge or criticize others which was posted verbatim from a bible publishers website has no merit. If there are passages which supersede this rich tapestry of instruction warning christians to not be judgmental of others what are they and why are THOSE passages given priority over the passages which seem to contradict it?

You offhandedly mentioned 1 Corinthians earlier. Are there other one's as well Why don't you post the passage(s) that you feel over-ride all of the non-judgemental passages I posted right to this thread. After all...you've already stated that the Crossway Bible company's verbatim text in their bibles are "fundamental atheism".

I want to make sure I'm referencing a "good bible". So...let's use yours. Post the passages as well as either a link or reference to which bible/edition it came from and we can all evaluate it together and since it will come directly from whichever religious text you claim to be the "right" one and posted by your own hand then we can dispel any accusations of me using incorrect sources before they even start. That makes sense...doesn't it?

So...let's go. Post away.