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I don't know how else to say this, but IT'S A ****ING TRAP. It utilizes our nature to turn us against one another in the name of righteousness using a device that we can never disprove AND appeals to the most core part of our desires. Check the link in my signature and see if I'm wrong, yeah? I've posted the Dummies version of why we have a "God" that can do anything but actually does nothing. In all the places and times where the most good could have been affected....nada. Zilch. Must have been his day off, eh? No resonsibility over a world he apprently created to glorify himself, but he's more than content to let his servants destroy each other? Insanity. I've already explained it, you just refuse to listen because you're terrified to set one foot outside of your comfort zones. How will you ever fly if you never leave your little nest?
They don't blame it on figments of imagination, and if they see the world burning, they recognize the need to fix it, even if they don't necessarily jump from their seats.
Meanwhile, back at the altar, the Christians are still waiting for Jesus "Baumgartner" Christ to fall from the sky and cure the world with a wave of his hand. "Oh hey guys, am I late?"
Nope...over 400 quadrillion dead due to your daddy's negligence, but we'll be okay. Just go back to what you were doing, we'll be done blowing each other up here in about...let's say...a couple hundred years. Come back when we're done destroying the earth.
Originally posted by rtyfx
reply to post by truejew
God, as he is known now, was not a factor in the life of early man. The "God" concept emerged later as man developed advanced communication and methods of myth to explain what scared him in nature.
Man refrained from certain behaviors because it benefited him not to murder the neighbor with whom he could hunt or steal something from him and thereby ruin that bond.
Morals arose in early "society" as a matter of necessity.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by borntowatch
Morals come from society...not religion
That's why killing is wrong in the US, and it's also wrong in countries that aren't Christian...
What a nonsense thread...
Morals come from God.
Originally posted by borntowatch
I never called atheism a seething pit of hypocrisy
Understand just that one simple point, I just posed a question.
A simple yes, no or maybe would have been sufficient, rather than the hissy fit fest we have here
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by milominderbinder
His reaction to all the proof you posted will be like this:
Talking about "morals":
In short:
edit on 15-10-2012 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by MrXYZ
Oh don't you know their reply for that?
"those rules were for THAT time, we have to adjust to this time"
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by borntowatch
Morals come from society...not religion
That's why killing is wrong in the US, and it's also wrong in countries that aren't Christian...
What a nonsense thread...
Morals come from God.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by borntowatch
Morals come from society...not religion
That's why killing is wrong in the US, and it's also wrong in countries that aren't Christian...
What a nonsense thread...
Morals come from God.
They clearly don't...because if the did, atheists and everyone not following your religion wouldn't have them. Clearly that's not the case, ergo god has NOTHING to do with morals.
I act morally, yet I have about as much belief in god as I have for unicorns and elves
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by rtyfx
reply to post by truejew
God, as he is known now, was not a factor in the life of early man. The "God" concept emerged later as man developed advanced communication and methods of myth to explain what scared him in nature.
Man refrained from certain behaviors because it benefited him not to murder the neighbor with whom he could hunt or steal something from him and thereby ruin that bond.
Morals arose in early "society" as a matter of necessity.
God had a relationship with Adam and Eve. He started to teach them right and wrong early on. He taught that murder was wrong after the first murder occurred.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by milominderbinder
Well then...unicorns must be real
Sometimes when I discuss with Christians I feel like I'm talking to hardcore Trekkies. Star Wars fans are Muslims in that scenario, but you can't insult them because they'll hit you with fake light sabres.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by milominderbinder
Why would you accuse someone of being affiliated with the Taliban, knowing the stigmas attached to that sort of thing? What does that have to do with the hypocrisy of atheist or theist?
edit on 15-10-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by milominderbinder
It's a thread based in religious discussion. "Clear thinking" wouldn't touch it with someone else's ten foot pole. But I'm lovin' your post - a clear case of hypocrisy at the other end of the table! Maybe all this pointing fingers at the atheists is just a cover?
Who knows?edit on 15-10-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)