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Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by luciddream
You lost all credibility soon as i saw that. How dare you say that about old religions? wait.. why do i even reply to "pastorized" people. if i ever turn to a "believer it would be a eastern religion like Buddhism.
In your eyes, those who say the truth don't have credibility, those who lie do. The question of why we have Obama and Romney to choose from, has been answered.
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by luciddream
You lost all credibility soon as i saw that. How dare you say that about old religions? wait.. why do i even reply to "pastorized" people. if i ever turn to a "believer it would be a eastern religion like Buddhism.
In your eyes, those who say the truth don't have credibility, those who lie do. The question of why we have Obama and Romney to choose from, has been answered.
Yeah...whatever. News Flash: Religion is make-believe!!
Originally posted by milominderbinder
So one fella blamed religion at his trial, used religion as an excuse 30 years or so latter.
You obviously missed the part about Pol Pot's infamous levels of superstition and belief in all manner of Theravedic boogeymen. Read my post again and keep reading it until you understand it.
Your argument is that he once believed in a god or gods so he was religious. Just about every atheist on this board once believed in some gods or something, are they still religious as well Stupid argument. Stalin said state controlled religion is acceptable and you think thats a logical argument justifying your position.
thats just so corny.
No...that's not my argument. My argument is that NONE of the individuals you mentioned were "atheists" because ALL of them believed in magical beings who meddled in worldly affairs their entire lives. Stalin started and ended his life and career as devoutly religious. You are misinterpreting the period in which he booted the Catholic church out Russia as being "atheist".
Again you embarass yourself. Think latteraly, or at least just think
Also none of that addresses the point I raised
The only person I'm embarrassed for is the guy who can't spell "laterally"...and it ABSOLUTELY addresses your historically incorrect statement in the thread that Stalin, Pol Pot, and Chairmen Mao were "atheists". One guy founded an entire religion, another guy thought that Fate and Destiny personified worked their magical powers to put him at the head of Khmer Rouge, and the third flatly states and admits the existence of "god" in the Little Red Book you get so worked up about.
You might disagree with the religious institution that Stalin started...but that doesn't mean he didn't do it. You might not think there is a God of Destiny and a God of Fate as they aren't from the judeo-christian tradition...but that doesn't mean that Pol Pot didn't believe in gods. It might run contrary to what you've been told that Mao was a big time "believer"...but I cut and pasted his very own words from the Little Red Book that you have CLEARLY not ever once in your lifetime read.
I know it sucks to be wrong...but you're just going to have to get over it.
The history of Christianity in the Soviet Union was not limited to repression and secularization. Soviet policy toward religion was based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism, which made atheism the official doctrine of the Soviet Union. Marxism-Leninism has consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religion.
The state was committed to the destruction of religion, and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic propaganda, and generally promoted 'scientific atheism' as the truth that society should accept.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by borntowatch
en.wikipedia.org...
The history of Christianity in the Soviet Union was not limited to repression and secularization. Soviet policy toward religion was based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism, which made atheism the official doctrine of the Soviet Union. Marxism-Leninism has consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religion.
The state was committed to the destruction of religion, and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic propaganda, and generally promoted 'scientific atheism' as the truth that society should accept.
Atheism may not be a religion, but it still functions as a doctrine....one that tries to enforce its will on to people with a different way of life.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by luciddream
You lost all credibility soon as i saw that. How dare you say that about old religions? wait.. why do i even reply to "pastorized" people. if i ever turn to a "believer it would be a eastern religion like Buddhism.
In your eyes, those who say the truth don't have credibility, those who lie do. The question of why we have Obama and Romney to choose from, has been answered.
Yeah...whatever. News Flash: Religion is make-believe!!
Just because your religion is make-believe does not mean mine is.
14 When Gentiles who have not the [divine] Law do instinctively what the Law requires, they are a law to themselves, since they do not have the Law. 15 They show that the essential requirements of the Law are written in their hearts and are operating there, with which their consciences (sense of right and wrong) also bear witness; and their [moral] decisions (their arguments of reason, their condemning or approving thoughts) will accuse or perhaps defend and excuse [them]
Originally posted by Philodemus
reply to post by borntowatch
As this thread develops you sound more and more Christ-like. You are a fine example of Christianity and the ideal poster child for the attitude that people of faith should strive to cultivate in their own lives.
Not to mention, your Christ-like language. I wonder if the many true and outstanding Christians in the past would speak in the venomous and destructive manner that you employ?edit on 6-10-2012 by Philodemus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Ummmm....who says I have a "religion"
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Ummmm....who says I have a "religion"
Atheism is a religion. Man's fallible intelligence is your god.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Ummmm....who says I have a "religion"
Atheism is a religion. Man's fallible intelligence is your god.
Definition of RELIGION
1
a : the state of a religious
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2
: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3
archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by borntowatch
en.wikipedia.org...
The history of Christianity in the Soviet Union was not limited to repression and secularization. Soviet policy toward religion was based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism, which made atheism the official doctrine of the Soviet Union. Marxism-Leninism has consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religion.
The state was committed to the destruction of religion, and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic propaganda, and generally promoted 'scientific atheism' as the truth that society should accept.
Atheism may not be a religion, but it still functions as a doctrine....one that tries to enforce its will on to people with a different way of life.
edit on 6-10-2012 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jeantherapy
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Ummmm....who says I have a "religion"
Atheism is a religion. Man's fallible intelligence is your god.
You mean the same fallible intelligence that dreamed up your god in the first place?
Originally posted by windword
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Ummmm....who says I have a "religion"
Atheism is a religion. Man's fallible intelligence is your god.
Atheism is NOT a religion.
Definition of RELIGION
1
a : the state of a religious
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2
: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3
archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
An atheirst has the same capability of cynicism of the intelligence of the human race as you or any other Christian!
Religious make the claim, burden of proof is with them, i "worship" the default. You guys can follow a rule made by another human being couple of thousand years ago.
I'm willing to accept higher being(not supreme or ultimate) but i'm still 99% skeptical, But these man made garbage gods(with slavery, rape, murder) are nothing to me.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by jeantherapy
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Ummmm....who says I have a "religion"
Atheism is a religion. Man's fallible intelligence is your god.
You mean the same fallible intelligence that dreamed up your god in the first place?
God is not "dreamed up" by man.