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Originally posted by corvuscorrax
Will there ever come a day when people stop bickering about religion and politics on the internet?
Bah I'm on the wrong website.
Originally posted by morsomnibustyrannus
reply to post by borntowatch
I find it sad that you need to be forced to be moral, when i dont murder people its because i know wrong from right. are you so childish that you need to be told what is wrong and right?
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by borntowatch
Originally posted by vendettent
I get the feeling that your trying to say that being an atheist is a terrible thing because they don't have a set code of rules telling them how to live by. I am not an atheist myself but do believe that anyone should be aloud to have freedom in choice of religion without persecution. Why do atheists need a book to tell them whats right and wrong in our modern society? Don't you think the average North American atheist would have normal morals and ethics like the rest of us?
Do you really think that being gay should be associated with Adolf Hitler?
When the world becomes North America, ask me again.
Should people have the right to impose their will on everyone ala Pol Pot Stalin Mao.
Try the little red book Stalin used.
If ignorance was a commodity North America would not be in decline.edit on 4-10-2012 by borntowatch because: (no reason given)
Pol Pot was educated as a Catholic but then later sought to revive the ancient Cambodian religious traditions and is universally considered by historians to have been NOTORIOUSLY superstitious. One can't really be an "atheist" if they are convinced that all manner of supernatural forces are work..can they?
Stalin was a devout member of the Russian Orthodox Church. He tried ruling without their power behind them but found that he needed religion on his side to ehlp justify all of those gulags...that's why he went back to the Church post WWII.
Mao's "Little Red Book" directly states there IS a "god" and that the chinese people ought to have the same reverence for the State that they do for their superstitious beliefs.
...so there goes that argument, huh?
Originally posted by morsomnibustyrannus
reply to post by borntowatch
I find it sad that you need to be forced to be moral, when i dont murder people its because i know wrong from right. are you so childish that you need to be told what is wrong and right?
Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Lets get this to the simple but logical facts..
I exist, FACT..Proven, undeniable & verifiable..
God in whatever form....No proof of existence, unproven, no direct proof, based upon stories in a story telling age.
Therefore being a logic driven person I choose to not believe....Does that make me a hypocrite, NO, it makes me a sane human..
Originally posted by milominderbinder
You do know that prior to the First Council of Nicea "the bible" depicted Jesus as a serial killer and stated in no uncertain terms that he also slayed a dragon...right?
The collection of heavily edited documents you refer to as "the bible" bears little to no resemblance to the original Christian texts and Gospels.
...you might want to read the real documents sometime instead of the dumbed-down and wildly falsified versions that you buy in the store.
Originally posted by corvuscorrax
Will there ever come a day when people stop bickering about religion and politics on the internet?
Bah I'm on the wrong website.
Originally posted by Sablicious
'Atheism' is a label godtards lump "disbelievers" with to make themselves feel better about their own delusion(s).
Atheism implies the categorical rejection of the notion of a god / creator. This, with today's understanding of science, is as baseless and asinine a proposition as believing in a god. Neither can be proved empirically.
As such, intelligent secular people should consider themselves free-thinkers, unconstrained by the fetters of intractable 'faiths'. People who appreciate that knowledge is forever in flux and anyone or thing declaring something to be the unequivocal "truth", does so from ignorance; nay some divine understanding that's been bestowed upon them.
Originally posted by drevill
reply to post by borntowatch
Its a complete myth that the council of Nicaea changed anything it was a debate primarily about gnosticism and the true Gospel.
The waldenses had their bibles 150ad and is almost identical to those of today.
Regards
Originally posted by borntowatch
fact, you will do whatever you think you can get away with, you are your own god
You have nothing, nothing at all.
You dont even understand my position and harp on like a fool about something not even being contested.
A veritable vacuum of intellect.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Zecharia
Get over it the world is diverse but none of it really matters.
PEACE.
Yeah, who cares what the world will be like 500 years from now? I mean, our great great great great grandchildren will have to deal with it, but that's not our problem. We'll be dead, so who cares?
Gosh, what an uplifting perspective to take on it! And people wonder who's at fault for the world's current predicaments? Well, let's see...there's the people making poor decisions out of greed and blindness...and then there's the people who think life's too short for it to matter!
Admirable. Truly admirable. It's all excuses...edit on 4-10-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Originally posted by borntowatch
fact, you will do whatever you think you can get away with, you are your own god
You have nothing, nothing at all.
You dont even understand my position and harp on like a fool about something not even being contested.
A veritable vacuum of intellect.
Its 'don't' not dont, if you must harp on about people's intellect then at least have one yourself instead of a whiny rude little mind.
I have nothing at all?.
I have the same as you but without all the nasty little guilt fed into you by your corrupt handlers.
Please take your superiority complex somewhere else.
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Agnostic is a better word than Atheist, for a person who doesn't have any belief system at all. Theism still implies some form of belief.
I think the prejudice against non-believers stems from our tribal nature - non-believers tend to be non-conformists. Non-conformists may be viewed as a weakness when tribes faced outside threats and needed to ensure everyone fought and died with the same convictions as their fellow tribesman.
Another prejudice against non-believers may come from childhood indoctrination. Who you believe in (your god) comes from your parents belief system. Spurn that and not only are you a non-conformist you appear to be against your parents.