What Muslims think about mocking prophets

As a Muslims , I tell you what the Muslims may be thinking about mocking their special prophet. The one who brought their holy book for them.

They think that west is moving to a new age of lust and disbelieving.

This has been started for years ,now.

Those who started mocking religion and prophets. Lets call them disbelieving prophets.

They brought the grammar to daily life of western people.

They are used to mock everything religious they get , holiness , Mary , Jesus and ... in their entertainment shows.

At the end of the day , a young western teenager may think "who is Jesus who is being mocked ? . This is a joke . the whole religion is a joke. lets make joke. let's do anything bad and see what the consequence is"

Muslims don't want this to happen for them.

Muslims (generally) have and they will stand for the honor of their special prophet (peace be upon him).

I suggest those Christians stand for their belief and respect their special prophet ,too.

We can live in peace with respect boundaries of freedom.

Freedom is not equal mocking each other's belief.

I started this thread to make some thing clear for other members.

+ I don't defend those who threaten western people.

Love and peace.

Don't mean to offend but

This whole thing is just childish don't you think? Why do you people care if someone makes fun of the god you worship?

Non believers are already damned according to most religions, so why not just let them have their fun before they are shipped to hell?

Also most people in the Western world live in countries with freedom of speech, and I don't think any religion should be exempted from criticism or mockery.

The christian God says that if you even look at another Human with anger in your eyes you have committed murder.

That when slapped you offer the other cheek to be slapped as well.

The christian Bible also says a time of great apostasy will happen in the Church, where people will fall away from their beliefs.

The christian God says that we should not seek vengeance as it is his to deal out, not ours.

We are told that when this happens to not be discouraged but to look up, for our redemption draws near.

We do not need to retort to every mocking of our faith, of our God, or of our Savior.

More so as an American, I believe that people are free to say what ever they want, even if it makes some one else uncomfortable.

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We can think it's wrong without murdering people and blowing stuff up. There's nothing wrong with disliking it, it's the response that is wrong. Factor that in and make a new post.

The way I see it God has a sense of humor.
..and yes it is the same God all we believers worship, just under a different name.

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I have a favourite five posters in my mind, mideast, and you're one of them. I really like reading you, because you certainly seem to care about people. I guess you'll be mad at me, since I don't believe in gods. But, I do believe that some people who believe gods are very nice.

Why do muslims always use the west as an example?

there is many other countries, who arent like the west..who still wont believe in prophets or religion.

Eg. North Korea

How can islam cater for the koreans?

Can islam unite south and north korea?

If so..it would of been doen long ago..


Religion is a sinking boat on a ocean of lies

Originally posted by muse7
Don't mean to offend but

This whole thing is just childish don't you think? Why do you people care if someone makes fun of the god you worship?

This is a polite reply.

We think that we should respect each other's belief. Those disbelievers can mock prophets anytime they want. But they shouldn't do it in general entertainment and mass mind injection media tools.

There are always boundaries for freedom everywhere.

I think respect is a reasonable boundary of freedom. Specially respecting group of people.

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Mideast, in your OP you say that you don't defend the aggression of some of your more radical brothers and sisters, but there's one thing with everything you have written. I take great offence at the need to put the "peace be upon him" whenever your so called hero's name is mentioned. It literally makes my stomach turn. Don't know why, it just does. So, since you expect your hero to have hi name held in high esteme will you reciprocate please by not putting that rediculous "pbuh" etc after this mortal's name? Fair's fair hey?

Respectfully

Steve

Originally posted by mideast

Freedom is not equal mocking each other's belief.

I don't mock Islam. I believe it is a violent, aggressive and dominating political ideology wrapped up as a religion.

Muhammad himself was a violent warlord (he fought 8 major battle, led 18 raids and had conquered much of the Arabian peninsula by the time of his death, HistoryNet) who pronounced death for leaving Islam, told his followers that jihad was second only to believing in Allah (and himself) and burnt people to death for not praying.

• Pronounced death for leaving Islam, Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Book 83 Volume 9, Number 17

• Told followers that Jihad was the second highest thing after believing in Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 25

• Stated he would fight until everyone admitted their was only one god, Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24

• Burnt people for not praying Sahih Bukhari Book 1, Vol 11, Verse 626

• Forced non Muslims to be humbled, submit to Islam and pay jizyah tax. Koran Book 9 Verse 29

Muhammad was not a nice man. Islam is not a nice religion.

By the way, I would end up in prison for stating that Muhammad was not a nice man and Islam is not a nice religion in almost all Islamic dominated countries.

The rest of my statement? That would be fine, as it is all from the Islam's own holy books - the Koran and canonical Hadith.

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I'm sorry but why should we non-believers respect any religion? That is suppressing freedom of speech and expression, these cartoons and movies are for the most part being produced and printed in Western countries with a democratically elected government, so why should people in these countries be forced to respect a religion just because a bunch of backward thinking Muslim radicals can't control themselves?

Originally posted by mideast

Freedom is not equal mocking each other's belief.

Actually it is. It's the freedom to do exactly that, otherwise it's not freedom is it.

Originally posted by mideast


There are always boundaries for freedom everywhere.

Again, no there aren't. If there are then it isn't freedom.

Originally posted by mideast

I think respect is a reasonable boundary of freedom. Specially respecting group of people.

And some are more special than others I imagine and have to be 'protected'?

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The christian God says that if you even look at another Human with anger in your eyes you have committed murder.

That when slapped you offer the other cheek to be slapped as well.

The christian Bible also says a time of great apostasy will happen in the Church, where people will fall away from their beliefs.

The christian God says that we should not seek vengeance as it is his to deal out, not ours.

Be honest with yourself.

Is this what we see west is doing to the world ?

No.

Then we don't see religion ruling western countries.

So , why is that ?

That is because religion has been fading away from people's lives.

They talk about love and they invade and kill.

I said this to confirm my words that religion is fading away generally in west.

More so as an American, I believe that people are free to say what ever they want, even if it makes some one else uncomfortable.

So , you wanna do something that hurts other's feeling ?

Or

You defend something you don't like to do?

Peace.

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
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We can think it's wrong without murdering people and blowing stuff up. There's nothing wrong with disliking it, it's the response that is wrong. Factor that in and make a new post.

This is a part of OP :

+ I don't defend those who threaten western people.

So , I don't defend Al-qaeda and terrorist groups and people.

Originally posted by trysts
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I have a favourite five posters in my mind, mideast, and you're one of them. I really like reading you, because you certainly seem to care about people. I guess you'll be mad at me, since I don't believe in gods. But, I do believe that some people who believe gods are very nice.

Actually , I don't believe in gods , either.

I believe in god.

Thank you for your kind reply.

Originally posted by mideast

So , I don't defend Al-qaeda and terrorist groups and people.

No, your answer seems to be far more insidious.

You'd rather take away the right to say things that upset certain people.

That's far more dangerous.

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by mideast

I think respect is a reasonable boundary of freedom. Specially respecting group of people.

And some are more special than others I imagine and have to be 'protected'?

No, Muslims are about 1,000,000,000 people. They are a very large group of people. They should not be mocked like many other group of people are not mocked.

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by mideast

I think respect is a reasonable boundary of freedom. Specially respecting group of people.

And some are more special than others I imagine and have to be 'protected'?

No, Muslims are about 1,000,000,000 people. They are a very large group of people. They should not be mocked like many other group of people are not mocked.

Originally posted by mideast

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by mideast

I think respect is a reasonable boundary of freedom. Specially respecting group of people.

And some are more special than others I imagine and have to be 'protected'?

No, Muslims are about 1,000,000,000 people. They are a very large group of people. They should not be mocked like many other group of people are not mocked.

And here we get to the point finally.

The numbers are irrelevant. I don't care if they're everyone but me. I have the right to mock them. I have the right to mock everybody. It's that simple.

Which groups of other people aren't mocked please? Name one?

And then explain why muslims should be the exception, other than the numbers you claim?