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posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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95% of 'Syrian rebels' not Syrians - report

German intelligence agency report states that 95% of Syrian rebels are foreign mercenaries, claims International law professor, Georgetown University Washington, D.C., Daoud Khairallah.



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posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 06:09 PM
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Nice find


Such a shame that so many still need to be told whats going on.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 06:14 PM
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What gets me is how the US and other nations are denying they are supporting, even funding the FSA. Haven't they openly stated that they have been sending money to the opposition to at least topple the Assad regime?? I'm sure I have seen reports.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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I'm surprised that German intelligence is lately publishing reports that don't go in NATO's favor. After all Germany is part of NATO and its operations.

This particular report didn't surprise me, i expected for majority of rebels to be foreign but still 95% is alot.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Whenever anyone says "95%" of something, they are usually making it up. It's to convenient a number and is used to convey a point, rather than fact.

Also, this is Russia Today... Not an unbiased source at all...
Only funded by the Kremlin and set up with the sole intention to counter everything the West says.

I find it ironic that on the one hand people decry the media as biased or having an agenda, until it says something which jives with their own thinking then all of a sudden it is absolute truth. As with all media, RT is biased, in this case very heavily in favour of whatever the Kremlin is thinking.

As Russia is Assads biggest friend, does it not ring alarm bells that R are pumping out all sorts of nonsense. They did the same with Libya and look how wrong they were there, claiming Islamists taking over, masses of foreign fighters etc. All turned out to be bollocks.

Yes, there are foreigners fighting in Syria, usually as part of Islamist groups, which the FSA doesn't get on with particularly well as they run counter to the FSA's stated aim of placing a secular, not fundamentalist regime in power.

The FSA, however, is largely made up of local people and defectors. There are actually a wide variety of groups operating in Syria and merely applying a cart-blanch statement like "95% of them are not Syrian" without making the effort to distinguish between them is foolish.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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I do agree with you that RT is as biased as any other media outlet , since they have now become a part of the mainstream media. However , i fail to understand why anyone would think that this is an actual uprising, revolution, rebellion (whatever you want to call it) since the organization of these "rebels" strikes a remarkable resemblance to that of the "Free Libyian Army" . And we all know how that ended - with the AL-QAEDA flag flying high.

The people of Syria have never done anything as barbaric as this , and to believe they are doing it to thier own land and people is like believing barrack obama is an honest, peaceful man.

Syria is in a great strategical place since taking Syria would re-enforce the stranglehold on Iran , and would shine a light on the most obvious path to Moscow. Assad is not the devil himself , saddam was not the devil himself , Gaddafi was not the devil himself , where will this end ?

The problem these conflicts will leave us with is something i do not want to live to see, these men are fighting without cause , without reason , without honour. When the conflict in Libya ended , the conflict in Syria grew out of control - this is not a civil war , it is a training exercise. They are training an army of unkowns on close quater combat , sweeping buildings , taking towns and cities , when they are finished over there - they will bring them over here for thier real mission. Operation : apocalypse.

Spelling police - i got a get outta jails free cards froms ma doctorsus.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by FishMonkey
However , i fail to understand why anyone would think that this is an actual uprising, revolution, rebellion (whatever you want to call it) since the organization of these "rebels" strikes a remarkable resemblance to that of the "Free Libyian Army" . And we all know how that ended - with the AL-QAEDA flag flying high.


That's the thing though, Libya did not end with the "AL-QAEDA flag flying high".

The elections roundly rejected the fundamentalist parties and went for the moderate, secular ones and when an Islamist militia (because again they were present alongside the moderate rebels) used protests as a cover to attack the US Consulate in Benghazi, the populace rallied round and threw them out. Now we're seeing a wholesale disbandment of the militia by the Government and a return to the rule of law.

Ironically, in the Arab countries that revolted and didn't have a Western intervention (Tunisia and Egypt), the Islamists swept to power.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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www.google.co.uk...=en&site=&source=hp&q=Libya+alqaeda+flag&oq=Libya+alqaeda+flag&gs_l=hp.3..0i13j0i8i13i30l7.570.416344.0.417351.27.22.4.1.1 .0.218.2962.6j14j2.22.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.oqL0tF3ZDAU&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.&fp=83f77d303ec0ede3&biw=1311&bih=646

It did.


They also introduced sharia law to certain regions.

if link doesnt work , just type - AL-QAEDA flag Libya - into google , there`s no way you could have missed this story.
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posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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The only stories that even hint at what you're saying (and yes, your link is broken) were from just after the overthrow of Gaddafi. I do not doubt that in some area's that did fall under the control of an Islamic militia they tried to impose a form of Sharia, but the Libyans have rejected it wholesale.

A year has passed and Sharia has not been implemented, a new constitution is being drafted and the Government is led by the National Front party, which is liberal and progressive, not Islamist.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 07:26 PM
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And you believe this because they said it ?

Gaddafi was bullied out of position by America , France , and Britain - they are now using the same tactics in Sryia.

Let me ask you , if these people are being crushed by a regime and live in absolute poverty because of this regime .... how could they all afford weapons ?

And if Britain is sending aid such as "walkie talkies" to Syria as they did with Libya , who is delivering them ?



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by FishMonkey
And you believe this because they said it ?


Believe what? Elaborate...

I could say the same to you, in all honesty though. You're just repeating what you've read as well.


Originally posted by FishMonkey
Gaddafi was bullied out of position by America , France , and Britain - they are now using the same tactics in Sryia.


No he wasn't. The whole thing started because a Civil rights lawyer (do you even remember this?) was detained and people protested at it, resulting in them being shot at and the whole thing spiralled from there, but the West certainly took advantage of this to remove what has been a royal pain in the arse.


Originally posted by FishMonkey
Let me ask you , if these people are being crushed by a regime and live in absolute poverty because of this regime .... how could they all afford weapons ?


Are we talking Syria or Libya? The former was because they looted army depots and some Army units defected. The same can be said of the FSA in Syria, which is borne out by the fact they only have small arms and are regularly out gunned by the Government forces.


Originally posted by FishMonkey
And if Britain is sending aid such as "walkie talkies" to Syria as they did with Libya , who is delivering them ?


The FCO and chums, I should imagine, as is usually the case.



posted on Oct, 2 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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Thread title made me chuckle. What bollocks.

Apparently sourced from an article published online by the German-language service of Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting citing a Die Welt article which doesn't exist. The IRIB article has now been deleted.

german.irib.ir...



posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by Soshh

Apparently sourced from an article published online by the German-language service of Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting citing a Die Welt article which doesn't exist. The IRIB article has now been deleted.



Those Georgetown University Washington International law professors are not to be trusted?


While the 95% is perhaps an exaggeration, there is no doubt that a significant proportion of the FSA fighters are foreign and not Syrian.

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posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by FishMonkey
reply to post by stumason
 


And you believe this because they said it ?

Gaddafi was bullied out of position by America , France , and Britain - they are now using the same tactics in Sryia.

Let me ask you , if these people are being crushed by a regime and live in absolute poverty because of this regime .... how could they all afford weapons ?

And if Britain is sending aid such as "walkie talkies" to Syria as they did with Libya , who is delivering them ?


You Sir are a well informed and well educated individual.



posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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we here a t ATS have been screaming this for a while. Same with Libya.....

It is a shame that no one in the MSM had the cojones to call this what it was.....a mercenary fought insurrection bought and paid for by.....us / Europe.


Too bad so many died already.....for a forced regime change.....of a sovereign nation.
All those massacres, for the most part.....were done by scum mercenaries.....and we called foul on the government forces. We couldn't do it the right way. We went the profitable route....

Honor, not an outdated concept for warriors.....just not as profitable. We gave other countries like France and EU in general a training ground for their troops. So next time a European gets on an Americans case about how we start wars all over the globe, remind them that almost all the special forces operating out of Turkey that were training and leading the "rebels" were from Europe. Those massacres are on their hands....not ours.

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posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Soshh

Apparently sourced from an article published online by the German-language service of Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting citing a Die Welt article which doesn't exist. The IRIB article has now been deleted.



Those Georgetown University Washington International law professors are obviously not to be trusted.


I have been saying for months these captured thugs are coming in from other countries funded by CIA and Mossad.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
Those Georgetown University Washington International law professors are not to be trusted?

Is that a serious question? Would I trust a clown paid by Russia Today to discuss a nonexistent report?


While the 95% is perhaps an exaggeration

It isn't "perhaps an exaggeration" it is a complete invention of Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting. Apparently you missed that part. Out of interest, how much of an effort did you make to verify this before you posted it? It took me about 4 minutes.
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posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Those Georgetown University Washington International law professors are not to be trusted?


Originally posted by Soshh

Is that a serious question? Would I trust a clown paid by Russia Today to discuss a nonexistent report?


Yes it is a serious question. He is an International law professor at Georgetown University Washington, D.C..

I am not sure that law professors at Georgetown University Washington quite constitute 'clowns' as you put it.


Originally posted by Soshh

Out of interest, how much of an effort did you make to verify this before you posted it? It took me about 4 minutes.


Not meaning to be cheeky but it took you 4 minutes to come up with a dead link which apparently was a "German-language service of Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting citing a Die Welt article which doesn't exist"?

Dead Link

Both of your sources are either dead/never existed and were, if they ever existed, written in German.



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posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me either way on this. I can see Syrian rebels being Syrians trying to shake off the butchery they are forced to live under ... and I can see Syrian rebels being a bunch of foreigners from Iran or Saudi Arabia or where ever having a proxy war in the country. The problem with the middle east and Persia is that everything is so darn muddy .. the truth is hard to find.



posted on Oct, 3 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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Interesting report.

To be honest. I don't think anybody in their right mind would deny Western support for the rebels and that there are foreign fighters in the mix but "95% not being Syrian" is simply delusional.

The Syrians have been dealing with certain groups going back a few decades {Both foreign and domestic}. Only recently has it become bad enough and also due to related situations in the region has the rest of the world taken notice.
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