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Originally posted by TheGrandWarlock
If you are a member of other fringe forums, you may be familiar with the rumors.
If ATS is the only forum you visit, you may or may not find this thread in bad taste.
It is commonly believed in these communities that ATS is in fact an experimental website where members are given data and their reaction and/or knowledge is observed and recorded.
Now before all the mockery begins, i'd like for you to take a minute, take a deep breath and tell me how this would affect you if it turned out to be true.
Would you still come here?
Would you think twice before you post?
(Ironically most people here dont really care it seems, as long as they think this place is for their own good, they dont really care about being used or watched.)edit on 2-10-2012 by TheGrandWarlock because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
I think it would be great to know that our opinions count. That our ideas are being run through the mills of government and science. Just imagine coming up with a question that would ultimately lead to an idea that would stop a war, cure a disease, expand mankind's scientific knowledge. So maybe we won't ever get the credit for a small idea that some genius transforms into a Nobel prize, but wouldn't that still be cool?!
Are we being watched? I certainly hope so.
Originally posted by The GUT
Originally posted by jiggerj
I think it would be great to know that our opinions count. That our ideas are being run through the mills of government and science. Just imagine coming up with a question that would ultimately lead to an idea that would stop a war, cure a disease, expand mankind's scientific knowledge. So maybe we won't ever get the credit for a small idea that some genius transforms into a Nobel prize, but wouldn't that still be cool?!
Are we being watched? I certainly hope so.
You have a faith in TPTB that is sweet and refreshing. Deluded...but sweet.
Originally posted by jiggerj
First, look at the cynical (and yet still very adorable) face of my avatar , and then reread my opening line. I said it would be great; didn't say it was true.
Unless, of course, you're a government agent assigned to ATS and you read my opinions daily. If so, my Spirit Guide has given me the instructions on how to build a perpetual motion machine that will end war, famine, and disease in our lifetime.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by The GUT
Glut the glutton.... flood the spillway... use the machine against itself.
~Heff
These days, with Facebook and Twitter and social media galore, it can be increasingly hard to tell who your “friends” are.
But after this, Internet users would be well advised to ask another question entirely: Are my “friends” even real people?
In the continuing saga of data security firm HBGary, a new caveat has come to light: not only did they plot to help destroy secrets outlet WikiLeaks and discredit progressive bloggers, they also crafted detailed proposals for software that manages online “personas,” allowing a single human to assume the identities of as many fake people as they’d like.
The revelation was among those contained in the company’s emails, which were dumped onto bittorrent networks after hackers with cyber protest group “Anonymous” broke into their systems.
In another document unearthed by “Anonymous,” one of HBGary’s employees also mentioned gaming geolocation services to make it appear as though selected fake persons were at actual events.
“There are a variety of social media tricks we can use to add a level of realness to all fictitious personas,” it said.
Government involvement
Eerie as that may be, more perplexing, however, is a federal contract (PDF) from the 6th Contracting Squadron at MacDill Air Force Base, located south of Tampa, Florida, that solicits providers of “persona management software.”
www.rawstory.com...
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by Shypeir
I think I have posted this here already, but am too tired to check. If this is an experiment? Then it's a very organic one - as 100% of the content is member generated. All ATS staff - including site owners, are all participants who post, create threads, etc.
I personally don't think it's realistic to imagine one or two dozens guys in either the NSA or Cyber command who get paid to sit and watch ATS for 8 hours a day - or 24 hours per day in shifts. The truth is there are a LOT of conspiracy sites. Do the math and just staffing a 24/7/365 operation would end up solving our unemployment problem in about a week because the Gov would need to hire every able body to sit and watch each post.
I'm a moderator and I probably don't see more than 2-5% of the posts on this board... and I am here ALL THE TIME.
Could some nefarious folks spot check, and possibly disrupt a bit? Personally I think that both are probable.
But, in reality, that no more or less than even FB would probably get.
Just my thoughts.
~Heffedit on 10/9/12 by Hefficide because: typo
Originally posted by Hefficide
I think I have posted this here already, but am too tired to check. If this is an experiment? Then it's a very organic one - as 100% of the content is member generated. All ATS staff - including site owners, are all participants who post, create threads, etc.
I personally don't think it's realistic to imagine one or two dozens guys in either the NSA or Cyber command who get paid to sit and watch ATS for 8 hours a day - or 24 hours per day in shifts. The truth is there are a LOT of conspiracy sites. Do the math and just staffing a 24/7/365 operation would end up solving our unemployment problem in about a week because the Gov would need to hire every able body to sit and watch each post.
I'm a moderator and I probably don't see more than 2-5% of the posts on this board... and I am here ALL THE TIME.
Originally posted by TheGrandWarlock
It is commonly believed in these communities that ATS is in fact an experimental website where members are given data and their reaction and/or knowledge is observed and recorded.
edit on 2-10-2012 by TheGrandWarlock because: (no reason given)
The Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) was the world's first operational packet switching network and the progenitor of what was to become the global Internet. The network was initially funded by the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA, later DARPA) within the U.S. Department of Defense for use by its projects at universities and research laboratories in the US.
en.wikipedia.org...
HISTORY
DARPA’s history of fundamental breakthroughs has altered defense and the world as we know it. Our nation’s global technological leadership is a result of the enormous contribution Defense innovation has made.
DARPA was created in 1958 as the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA).
The political and defense communities recognized the need for a high-level defense organization to formulate and execute R&D projects that would expand the frontiers of technology beyond the immediate and specific requirements of the Military Services and their laboratories...
Internet
DARPA’s (or ARPA’s) involvement in the creation of the Internet began with an idea to link time-sharing computers into a national system.
DARPA and the Internet Revolution (pdf) More about the ARPANET DARPA Network Challenge
www.darpa.mil...
“The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”
― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era
www.goodreads.com...
DARPA is soliciting innovative research proposals in the areas of
(1) quantitative analysis of narratives,
(2) understanding the effects narratives have on human psychology and its affiliated neurobiology, and
(3) modeling, simulating, and sensing-especially in stand-off modalities-these narrative influences. Proposers to this effort will be expected to revolutionize the study of narratives and narrative influence by advancing narrative analysis and neuroscience so as to create new narrative influence sensors, doubling status quo capacity to forecast narrative influence.
www.fbo.gov...