reply to post by Hefficide
1. The Mayflower Compact was an interesting choice of quote by you. Seeing as how you're attempting to glean a single "still relevant" notion from
a quote which contains two other notions many would say were no longer remotely applicable to the USA.
a. Stated "official" belief in a Christian God/Church of England.
b. Stated "official" allegiance to the Crown.
Now if the two issues above are openly thrown out the window by today's leaders and much of our citizenry, what's so special about implied community
responsibility that it should persevere over these other two blatent statements?
2. I'm not sure what you're getting at with your quote from the Declaration of Independence and the definition of Democracy. It would seem to be
counter productive to your points, in fact.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all
experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which
they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under
absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
seems to be pretty much in line with what the thread OP is all about. Listen closely and you will hear more people than ever before talking about how
our debt, coming tax increases, and eroding way of life are becoming un
sufferable. The government is becoming more abusive. The demands on
the middle class, the lifeblood of America, are destroying our security. By God, it looks like it is time to start being prudent and start throwing
off some Government.
The definition of democracy has no place here. America is not a democracy and, if anything, has drifted further away from being one.
3. I am angry and I am frightened. I am angry at a government which has screwed me and I am frightened for what this bastardization of America will
look like when my kids are my age and start trying to build a life for themselves. We stand today as the first generation of Americans whose
offspring will likely be less well off than we have been. LESS WELL OFF! I've got a college degree and a career which, 30 years ago, would have
placed me solidly upper middle class. Guess what? Today the only clear benefit of my career path is that I make just enough money to allow my family
to survive as a single income earner home and my wife can care for our children during the day herself. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankfull to be
well off compared to most, but by no means am I about to kiss any political ass in gratitude of being lucky enough to be "getting by". Furthermore,
I am damned angry at the idea that, if things keep going the way they are going, my wife will eventually have to seek a job not so we can pay for
ourselves, but to compensate for the amount of money the G.D. government steals from us in taxes.
I cannot put into words on ATS what I think
of America's "leaders", Heff. I'm a verbose dude with a decent vocabulary, but "proper" words don't get the job done here. The air needs to
be blistered and the Queen's English needs to be scorched by every American who is done playing DC's little games. I am also scared because we're
close to a majority of the nation which is on some form of federal aid and which takes more than they put in. Hell, maybe someday I'll just give up
and go on the dole myself... seems to be a lot less stressfull and a lot less of a screw job from that end.