BREAKING NEWS: NASA/NOAA Sends Geomagnetic Storm "WARNING"

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
For folks who may be interested, I have some things I can offer for the discussion. The first three are charts I carry on one of my sites. 2 are static I picked up along the way from public domain collections or sources and the 3rd is a recent projection/recorded event chart





and, personally I'm not in the mood just recently to do a lot of research involving time spent, but here is a list of major solar storms going back to the 1850's, descriptions of what they did as well as how they impacted things and in many cases with links to much more detailed references on each. One could probably take dates from the link, compare with the charts and see what might make sense for known major disasters that have happened. The few that come to mind seem to have been quiet periods, actually...

Major Solar Storms - 1859 to 2003

Hope that helps a bit.

You should read the book "Tutankhamun Prophecies" the author is the one that discovered the solar maximum cycle...the rise and fall of civilizations tied in with solar maximums is very interesting...not you specifically Wrabbit...but the general populous..

I get cranky when this stuff happens...so do most people...but they run around blindly aggressive...blind leading the blind is so true sometimes..

Did I read about some Buddist place being burned down recently?

Thank you for posting this...very useful information and they have all their paperwork in order to make sure "the general population" can believe what they say....

THINK!! WAKE UP...man I am ranting and cranky...Sorry OP. I am almost done

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by jassie51289

 

Geomagnetic storming reached G3 levels and subsided about 15 hours ago.
Geomagnetic activity does not cause earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, or any other weather fluctuations.

I think you got it wrong here...

www.washingtonsblog.com...

A 1967 study published in the Earth and Planetary Science Letters found :

Solar activity, as indicated by sunspots, radio noise and geomagnetic indices, plays a significant but by no means exclusive role in the triggering of earthquakes. Maximum quake frequency occurs at times of moderately high and fluctuating solar activity. Terrestrial solar flare effects which are the actual coupling mechanisms which trigger quakes appear to be either abrupt accelerations in the earth’s angular velocity or surges of telluric currents in the earth’s crust. The graphs presented in this paper permit probabilistic forecasting of earthquakes, and when used in conjunction with local indicators may provide a significant tool for specific earthquake prediction.

A 1998 report by a scientist from the Beijing Astronomical Observatory, Chinese Academy of Sciences, also found a correlation between low solar activity and earthquakes:

It has been found that:

(1) Earthquakes occur frequently around the minimum years of solar activity. Generally, the earthquake activities are relatively less during the peak value years of solar activity, some say, around the period when magnetic polarity in the solar polar regions is reversed.

(2) The earthquake frequency in the minimum period of solar activity is closely related to the maximum annual means of sunspot numbers, the maximum annual means of solar 10.7 cm radio flux and solar proton events of a whole solar cycle, and the relation between earthquake and solar proton events is closer than others.

Mitch Battros theorized in 1998 that large solar flares affect Earth’s magnetic field, which in turn shifts the oceanic and atmospheric currents, which can cause earthquakes and extreme weather. As Battros summarizes his formula:

Sunspots => Solar Flares (charged particles) => Magnetic Field Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents => Extreme Weather [including earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes or other extreme natural events]

Link to some of the released paper
Solar activity as a triggering mechanism for earthquakes (1968)
Relationship between global seismicity and
solar activities* (1998)

And also, these guys endorse the underlying concept :

Dr. Ernest Hildner, Director NOAA Space Weather Center
Dr. Tom Van Flandern, former US Naval Observatory Chief of Celestial Mechanics
Dr. Stefaan Poedts, Lead Scientist University of Leuven Center for Plasma Astrophysics
Dr. Ronald van der Linden, Director of Solar Physics Department of the Royal Observatory
Dr. Pål Brekke, Deputy Director of SOHO project- European Space Agency

So I guess Phage is wrong.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by jassie51289

 

Geomagnetic storming reached G3 levels and subsided about 15 hours ago.
Geomagnetic activity does not cause earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, or any other weather fluctuations.

...that we know of. Don't forget, as smart as man is, we have limited data on what does, and does not affect the Earth. To claim 100% either way is against this websites slogan.

Originally posted by MrMaybeNot

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by jassie51289

 

Geomagnetic storming reached G3 levels and subsided about 15 hours ago.
Geomagnetic activity does not cause earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, or any other weather fluctuations.

I think you got it wrong here...

www.washingtonsblog.com...

A 1967 study published in the Earth and Planetary Science Letters found :

Solar activity, as indicated by sunspots, radio noise and geomagnetic indices, plays a significant but by no means exclusive role in the triggering of earthquakes. Maximum quake frequency occurs at times of moderately high and fluctuating solar activity. Terrestrial solar flare effects which are the actual coupling mechanisms which trigger quakes appear to be either abrupt accelerations in the earth’s angular velocity or surges of telluric currents in the earth’s crust. The graphs presented in this paper permit probabilistic forecasting of earthquakes, and when used in conjunction with local indicators may provide a significant tool for specific earthquake prediction.

A 1998 report by a scientist from the Beijing Astronomical Observatory, Chinese Academy of Sciences, also found a correlation between low solar activity and earthquakes:

It has been found that:

(1) Earthquakes occur frequently around the minimum years of solar activity. Generally, the earthquake activities are relatively less during the peak value years of solar activity, some say, around the period when magnetic polarity in the solar polar regions is reversed.

(2) The earthquake frequency in the minimum period of solar activity is closely related to the maximum annual means of sunspot numbers, the maximum annual means of solar 10.7 cm radio flux and solar proton events of a whole solar cycle, and the relation between earthquake and solar proton events is closer than others.

Mitch Battros theorized in 1998 that large solar flares affect Earth’s magnetic field, which in turn shifts the oceanic and atmospheric currents, which can cause earthquakes and extreme weather. As Battros summarizes his formula:

Sunspots => Solar Flares (charged particles) => Magnetic Field Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents => Extreme Weather [including earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes or other extreme natural events]

Link to some of the released paper
Solar activity as a triggering mechanism for earthquakes (1968)
Relationship between global seismicity and
solar activities*

And also, these guys endorse the underlying concept :

Dr. Ernest Hildner, Director NOAA Space Weather Center
Dr. Tom Van Flandern, former US Naval Observatory Chief of Celestial Mechanics
Dr. Stefaan Poedts, Lead Scientist University of Leuven Center for Plasma Astrophysics
Dr. Ronald van der Linden, Director of Solar Physics Department of the Royal Observatory
Dr. Pål Brekke, Deputy Director of SOHO project- European Space Agency

So I guess Phage is wrong.

It appears Phage is having a bad week..i am still waiting on him to tell me Why the SEG Generator doesn't work...

Sorry I feel like i just stabbed him in the back...he is not here to defend himself...Sorry PHAGE i am sure you are watching somewhere out there

Ps think for yourselves...stop running to the resident smart person and then running with what they say...the smartest men in the world are NEVER right 100% of the time...

Originally posted by brettrix
reply to post by Phage

 

you can't really prove geomagnetic activity doesn't effect those things now can you???

I've been reading Phage's comments over the past year and he's full of it. Too many people think he is a god on here and that's why he has a knowledge ego.

Solar flares affect the way the atmosphere works and then so on and so forth...best diagram I could find.

Sunspots => Solar Flares (charged particles) => Magnetic Field Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents => Extreme Weather [including earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes or other extreme natural events]

Having enough solar flares can and will change the climate for a brief period of time.
Just like having enough sodas dehydrates the body. IE: changing your body
Do I believe that every time we have a solar flare, some god awful earthquake is going to happen?
No, but back to back solar flares have the possibility of cause these so called extreme weather events.
Case end point, too much of something, can have an affect.

We all forget that everything is tied together on this planet. This is not the best example but the movie Day After Tomorrow is the best way our modern time can understand our planet.

Then we all forget that NASA and the government aint going to tells us crap, if we had to worry. So, the day they quit telling us stuff...is the day to freak out.

I too had a horrible headache for no apparent reason over the weekend. It would not go away either.

Weird. I didn't know about this until now, and both a coworker and I had severe headaches all night at work, and I rarely get headaches.

Originally posted by superman2012

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by jassie51289

 

Geomagnetic storming reached G3 levels and subsided about 15 hours ago.
Geomagnetic activity does not cause earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, or any other weather fluctuations.

...that we know of. Don't forget, as smart as man is, we have limited data on what does, and does not affect the Earth. To claim 100% either way is against this websites slogan.

So they say. Believing anything from anyone without double checking the stated facts is also against this website slogan. Read post above yours.

Originally posted by unb3k44n7
Weird. I didn't know about this until now, and both a coworker and I had severe headaches all night at work, and I rarely get headaches.

I actually drank non decaf today, same for me, I had a headache...again like I said sensitives can feel it. The idiots can't and try to tell us we can't either...

Don't let them get to you..I am trying not to, but looking back at my responses its not working...lmao..

reply to post by johngrissom


That's the problem. When a member like him makes mistakes like this, it's disinformation. Voluntary or not. Tons of people takes as absolute truth anything he post. And then, these people tell other people about these what they just learned!

Originally posted by MrMaybeNot
reply to post by johngrissom

 

That's the problem. When a member like him makes mistakes like this, it's disinformation. Voluntary or not. Tons of people takes as absolute truth anything he post. And then, these people tell other people about these things.

Same issue in politics...

reply to post by Drala


Wow, is this why I've been so aggravated today? I've been pretty mellow lately, but today has just been catastrophic for me. I'm angry, tired, stressed (for no reason), and I've had a pretty bad headache for the past few days...or maybe that's why I've been easily aggravated
I don't know.
But it's an interesting theory, what you've got there.

Originally posted by MrMaybeNot
reply to post by johngrissom

 

That's the problem. When a member like him makes mistakes like this, it's disinformation. Voluntary or not. Tons of people takes as absolute truth anything he post. And then, these people tell other people about these what they just learned!

edit on 1-10-2012 by MrMaybeNot because: (no reason given)

Why would anyone consider another member to be so good, expert or above reproach that they can't make an honest mistake or something other than disinformation?

I'd say he'd earned the right to a mistake or two and I've certainly noticed he's not been back to support, argue and beat to death a bad point to the point of excess, as many (not you...lol) are apt to do. In my experience, a number of members on here are outspoken, as a good way of putting it, because they do almost unreasonable amounts of time in reading and research on things....or work in the fields.

I'm not sure which Phage is, if not a combination of both in Science or Tech fields..... Either way... I've found him right by seeing his facts elsewhere enough to take most of what he says on face value. A rare thing....actually.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by jassie51289

 

Geomagnetic storming reached G3 levels and subsided about 15 hours ago.
Geomagnetic activity does not cause earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, or any other weather fluctuations.

And we know this exactly... how? I thought geomagnetism and electromagnetism were concepts we haven't got a grasp on yet. And you seem to have a very strict and straight opinion about this, could share me the source so I can be as certain as you.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


I'm sure it's an honest mistake but the problem is that you get the correct answer simply by googling the question. It's all in the top results. Other people try to put his false statement in question and he discredits everything without looking at the info. Have the open mindedness to consider you're wrong and double check. Especially if your name is Phage because most will take 100% of what you say as the absolute truth.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

I'd say he'd earned the right to a mistake or two and I've certainly noticed he's not been back to support, argue and beat to death a bad point to the point of excess, as many (not you...lol) are apt to do.

I really lack the time to argue and beat to death a bad point. I'm not native english speaker so it's not always easy to put what's in my head into valid and convincing posts I like to read and make my own idea (not you...lol)

Originally posted by MDDoxs
Operator of website seems qualified...

Education:

· M.S. in Psychology w/ special studies in Cognitive, Behavioral and Existentialism

· N.A.D.A. Certified Acupuncturist, Specializing in Anxiety, Stress and Addiction

· Certified Trauma Resolution Therapist

· Member of the Red Cross Disaster Team - mental health unit

· Field Trainer with the King County Emergency Management Office

· Dual Diagnosis/Chemical Dependency Specialist

· Chief Editor of "Earth News" Newsletter

· Producer of "Earth Changes TV"

· Author of “Solar Rain” and “Cosmic Rain”

From source...Maybe not?

(sarcasm)

edit on 1-10-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)

edit on 1-10-2012 by MDDoxs because: (no reason given)

I don't understand how your sarcasm was missed, but nice find on the operator's background. The first education qualification tells me he's got the know-how to stir people up in to a frenzy. I.E, educated enough to know how to frak with heads and emotions, as well as how to observe the reactions from doing so. If that isn't a red flag for suspicious motives, I don't know what is.

reply to post by Drala

It appears Phage is having a bad week..i am still waiting on him to tell me Why the SEG Generator doesn't work...

Maybe he too is affected by geomagnetic storms and is not aware of it.

reply to post by OnWhiteMars

Just an FYI, but check this site out for more information....

Solar Ham Activity Displays and Info

This site makes a life mission out of showing pretty much everything an official or original source publishes for solar measurements and data. As it happens, the chart on the front shows roughly when the major wave of energy passed over. I've no doubt there are others and probably on that site that show in much higher detail for time. I've seen them for other Geo storms...

I did notice this was mentioned as odd in places but also compared to only what an upper level M class event would normally produce for us. I figure when they get to talking at least X-10 or higher, I'll perk my ears and take serious notice...until then, it's interesting to be sure.

reply to post by jassie51289


Well I had a headache yesterday. Could be related.

ETA: I hardly ever get headaches.

reply to post by johngrissom

No wonder i felt crappy on Sunday. Weren't in a great mood either.

I don't see how solar flares can't have any affect on climate with time. I am NO boffin when it comes to these things, but to me it is logic. Nothing's gonna stop a flare from doing what it does.